Trip to Dublin/Searching for family of Kathleen Hanlon-July 2020

Hello Kathleen, noticed your query was not answered so a quick search unearthed a bit. Firstly the Hanlon name is from South Down and North Louth were they were chieftains in the distant past, the Scart name appears to be very rare and only found in Cork as far as I can see, I did not look for Michaels birth or Annes but should be doable, she was a 22 year old widow when she got married in Queenstown, now Cobh on Spike Island (now a museum I think) he was a soldier (the death in south Down) now in Northern Ireland (different currency) if you are visiting all these places you have a bit of travelling, Cork to south Down is about 220 miles. There is a good train service via Dublin too. (also buses but I just prefer trains).

I am attaching the two extracts from the registers, free on Irish Genealogy site, sign in, your dates are a few years out, I am fairly sure the Scart name is rare, it is mistranscribed on Irish Genealogy as Scat, The addresses in Dublin I see are all city centre, the main hotels back then were probably the Shelbourne, Gresham and Hibernian (now gone).

I could probably dig out some more for you but it is getting on to 1am here and I am off now, will ring a friend in Cork and ask about Scart, there is an excellent heritage centre in Cobh (Queenstown).

feel free to add to your query,

Regards

Pat

Hi Kathleeen, the site here is https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ Under the civil button on top of page and sign in, free to do so and any records you want in the period should be viewable on the full page, I snipped out the pieces I attached. It also has the Dublin and Cork church records but not a lot more for the churchs.

I would imagine there was a church there of sorts, a friend of mine owns a house outside Cobh overlooking the harbour and Spike Island, I am always jealous when I visit. However I am not the local volunteer, I live about 200 miles away and was picking up questions that were missed or overlooked over the Christmas, also we may not have a volunteer in the area as it was posted under Dublin so the Cork volunteer may not have looked at it, I like unusual names like Scart. There are so few it may be only one family, the Hanlon name is the one attached to the Chieftains or O'Hanlon, the O was a movable feast, with the upsurge in nationalism post famine people people added in the O, there are many theories around it but I even notice it in my own family, one generation in the next out etc.

If you can email here they should be able to tell you about the church https://www.cobhheritage.com/ He first marriage to a Hosford could probably be found and give her home parish and address, there are Hosfords in Cork.

Without realising it was you I had looked at Corbett but nothing  jumped out, could find not births in Cobh and Imprick is a good distance away near the Limerick county line. Is it possible the embarked from Cobh as it was the major emigration port and people travelled from all over Ireland to there, ah la the Titanic. 

I will revisit this in the next few nights but it is almost 1 am and time to nod off. I will send or attach the info on O'Hanlon from McLysaghtss book of surnames at some point. 

https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=O%20hanlon just a little here, a sept is the Irish Gaelic version of a clan in Scotland but has been overtaken by the word clan. 
Regards

Pat

Kathleen, I attach a photo of the extract on the Hanlon name from McLysaghts.You mention that the lady was buried in south Down indicating the Hanlon fmily were possibily from there initially, now Hanlon is a common name there but there is at least one good County Down website, there was another one but think it is gone. http://www.rosdavies.com/ 

Regards

Pat

Kathleen, that gave me a smile, I think my friend would look at me like I had two heads, neither he nor his partner are from Cobh so his knowledge of Spike Island would only be current. Anyway all is not lost, we have maps that should be accessible, first I looked at the site about the Spike Island tour and in the montage of the place I see maps so I assume if you visit they will be on display. Also the Irish Ordnace survey have a website and sell historic maps here https://www.osi.ie/  I have had a look but think it may be easier to get in touch with them, I got a map up but the buildings are not marked so you need a large scale map with this detail, they have maps from early times, so see what is about 1900. The Spike Island site is here https://www.spikeislandcork.ie/ 

The other friend I mentioned was about the name Scart and lives in the city of Cork. I had another look at the marriage cert and see his father was a cab proprietor and hers a schoolmaster, in the 1901 census there are two Scarth sisters living in Cork, and there is the death of a Robert Scarth in 1900 attached, interesting place he died in, no other relevant information. I can not find his wifes death and wonder if the Scarth name was from the UK, only other name of Scarth is found in Belfast, Antrim. Also see the two ladies in the census, one a teacher, were born in Kinsale, actually says Cove, Kinsale and were Church of Ireland, is this is the family there should be a baptism for Anne Hosford somewhere as she married RC.

Another this I see the Hanlon children born in Dublin included twin girls. 

You have interesting searching ahead of you. Gloucester Street is now Sean McDermott Street since 1933 if looking on a map. 

Hi Kathleen, surprised to see your answer as I had come across something odd yesterday, happened to be in the car and they were interviewing some American chap who has walked across the US three times, he is now doing the same here, he mentioned in passing that he was from Cork, a place called Scart, there is actually an Electoral division of that name and s townland called Scartbaun. You can see it here https://www.townlands.ie/

Now there is something else I have been reluctant to mention, the family may have fallen on hard times when living in Gloucster Street as it was in the red light area of Dublin, reputed to be the largest red light disctrict in Europe until 1920, you will hear of it anyway in your research, it is referred to as the Monto (short I think for Montgomery Street I think, oddly I worked in an office in it before retiring for a few years, now James Joyce Street) there is a bit in Wikipedia about it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monto you will find more on it if you search, interesting if nothing else. 

Look forward to hearing from you,

Pat