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Thomas McClure Montgomery

I’m looking for my great grandfather Thomas McClure Montgomery unknown dob but I think at about 1855 and death between 1901 – 19011 as there is no census record of him. Married Margaret Hackney dob atb 1863 (census calculation), she is reported head of household in 1901 Belfast census and widow in 1911census.

They had 6 children, William 1885, Richard 1889 – 1963, Fredrick 1891, Jane (my grandma 1892-1968, Harry 1895 and Maurice 1897-1918.

Through the registration of the birth of his children I found the middle name McClure.

Much thanks,

Anna

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Anna,

Margaret’s birth is probably before 1864 in which case there won’t be a birth certificate. You might find her baptism in church records but they are unlikely to be on-line. She appears to have been born into a Presbyterian family so you would need to search all Presbyterian records around Ballyclare in PRONI.

I don’t see a marriage for them in Ireland, nor do I see Thomas in the 1901 census though there is a TM of the right age, marital status and religious denomination in Belfast workhouse then. You would need to check workhouse admission records in PRONI to see if it’s the same man. Occupation is labourer rather than flax buyer so it might not be the right man. He may have been in the infirmary.  Can’t see a death in Belfast for him before April 1911 (which is when the 1911 census was taken). The name is pretty common and he might have died elsewhere in Ireland. 26 Thomas Montgomery deaths 1901 – 1911. You could check through them. You’ll be able to eliminate some because of age (eg children). Shouldn’t take too long.  There's a 1911 death on an Ancestry tree which I assume is yours but it doesn’t look right. He was a carpenter from Maryville St and was still alive at the time of the 1911 census.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Ma…

Margaret is shown as dying in December 1919. I don’t see a death in the records that matches that.

Do you know where any of the family are buried? Possibly Thomas is in a family plot.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

In 1911 Margaret was living in Coggrey with her father. He died in 1921:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05086/4395795.pdf

She could well have been alive and still living in that area. I see deaths for Margaret Montgomery regd in Antrim on 4.1.1950 aged 82; 18.1.1950 aged 76 & 16.12.1950 aged 78. Given that ages on death certificates then were usually guesses, any of those could be her. Her age in the 1911 census suggests she was born c 1863 but it was probably a little after that as her parents don’t appear to have married till 1865:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11588/8264447.pdf

Death of daughter Sarah in 1889:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

Death of wife Sarah in 1885:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1885/06290/4802431.pdf

James in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballyclare/Coggery/917841/

This looks to be his son John marrying in 1906:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10122/5682661.pdf

Family in the 1911 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballyclare_Urban/Mill_Lane/109525/

 

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you sp much for all the information you have given me.

I could not find a death record for Margaret Hackney, but remember my Da saying he used to visit ireland as a child , and he was born in 1918.

Its such a pity my Grandma Janet (jane) did not talk about her family.

Thanks again.

Anna

keeanna@gmail.com

Anna,

I assume you know that deaths in Northern Irelnd post 1922 are not on the irishgenealogy site. They can only be found on the GRONI site. They go up to 1970.

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

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