Stuart of Castlestuart

Hello

My great grandfather is Andrew Godfrey William STUART, 1869 - 1949. He was born and died in New Zealand.

My g g grandfather is Andrew Godfrey STUART, 1841 - 1911. He was born in Melbourne, lived in Tasmania but came to New Zealand after his marriage to Rosa WILSON. This A G STUART's parents are Andrew Thomas STUART and Mary GILMOUR. They came out to Australia from Ireland, landed in Port Phillip (Melbourne) and shortly after A G STUART's birth went to Tasmania.

My great grandmother used to say that her husband, A G W STUART, received a remission payment however is was not large enough to support him, her and their four children.

Can any one tell me why A G W STUART would have received a remission? Is it some how passed down the family as a form of inheritance? Is there any way to find out, however I would need to do this via the internet as I live in New Zealand.

Thanks, Rose

foggykiwi

last year

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foggy kiwi,

The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase & Fable defines a remittance man as follows:

“An emigrant supported or assisted by payments of money from home; typically a disgraced man of good position or family who has been sent abroad by his family and whose payments depend on his remaining there”.

If that’s the reason your ancestor emigrated, I am not sure that the family are likely to have published the reasons. No harm in searching local newspapers though around the time he left in case it made it into the papers.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

last year

Hi,

To add to your info

Record from Ancestry

Name	Andrew Godfrey Stuart
Birth Place	Victoria, Australia
Birth Registration Date	1841
Birth Registration Place	Victoria, Australia
Father	Andrew Thomas Stuart
Reference Number	12551

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Record from RootsIreland. Are these Andrew's parents?

Date of Marriage:	11-Apr-1840
Parish / District:	GRANGE CI		County:	Co. Armagh

	Husband		Wife
Name:	Andrew	Stewart		Mary	Gilmore
Address:	City Of Dublin		Armagh Parish, Grange District
Denomination:	Church Of Ireland		Church Of Ireland
Occupation:	FARMER
Age:
Status:

	Husband's Father		Wife's Father
Name:		Stewart			Gilmore
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:

	Husband's Mother		Wife's Mother
Name:		Not Recorded			Not Recorded
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:

	Witness 1		Witness 2
Name:	Patrick	Mcgarrity		William	Caldwell

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Is Castlestuart in Scotland?

Regards- Mary

mtvrdk@gmail.com

last year

You might have already seen this tree on WikiTree. It takes you to the families you mentioned above.

Andrew Thomas Stewart (1725-1809) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree

Biography of Andrew Thomas Stewart 1st Earl Castle Stewart 1725-1809

Earl Castle Stewart Facts for Kids

Below the tree there is a biography

Andrew Thomas (Stewart) Stuart (1814-1894) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree

Mary (Gilmour) Stuart (abt.1824-1906) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree

mtvrdk@gmail.com

last year

Hi Mary

Thank you for the information you have given me. I particularly like the Facts for Kids.

I still find it curious that Andrew Godfrey William STUART would have received a remittance as he is the great great grandson of Andrew Thomas STUART, who

came from Ireland to Australia and Tasmania. Perhaps this is going to be a family mystery that we won't ever know why.

Mary GILMOUR, A T STUART's wife, is also a bit of mystery. But this makes family all the more interesting.

I appreciate your reply, Rose.

foggykiwi

last year

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