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Stewart/Fleming

Hello, help required! I've totally hit a brick wall with the following people (my 3x gt grandparents) This is the info I have..

Thomas Stewart born 1807 in Ireland, worked as a calico printer, married at Manchester Cathedral in 1828 to Jane Fleming. Listed in Huddersfield in the 1841 England census, he then died there in December 1845. Jane was born in Ireland in 1810 and is listed in all the census records in Huddersfield, one in Leeds, until her death in 1876. They had a child called Mary in 1829, John was born in Burnley in 1832, Elizabeth in 1839 and James in 1842 in Huddersfield. Ive located the grave of Jane. I just dont know where theywere from in Ireland. They were catholics.

Many thanks!

Janey Cusworth

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Hi Janey,

This is the only 1807 R C birth/baptism from www.rootsireland.ie from 1807 for Thomas Stewart (+ surname variants):

Name:Thomas StuartDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:13-Dec-1807Address:
Parish/District:ST PATRICK'S, BELFASTGender:MaleCountyCo. Antrim
Denomination:Roman Catholic

No parents' names of course!!

There are 2 others - both C of I and others 2 years before and after.

No luck with Jane I'm afraid 

Some have found dna testing helpful in pinpointing counties of their ancestors while others haven't

No Thomas Stewarts or Jane Flemings in the 1821 Irish Census - were they in England by then? The census is incomplete however - only 11 counties.

The Tithe Applotments 1823-37 have 2 Thomas Stewarts 1826 & 26 - 1 in Galway & the other Dublin http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/

I notice the Cusworth tree on ancestry has the same baptism record as above & has Jane born in Dublin but the sources all seem to be the English ones you have cited. Are you aware of this tree or its owner?

Col

 

 

 

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Hello, thank you for your reply. The tree online is one I am helping my mother with, she thinks Thomas is potentially from Belfast especially with the calico printing profession. However, Jane listed as Dublin is incorrect as once we received the death certificate it showed that the one my mum had in mind couldn't be her, also the name was Jean on the birth record not Jane but I know there are different versions. Interesting information you have given me about the 1821 census it hadn't occurred to me that they may already be in England at that time. Which are the 11 counties that still have records? We have both taken DNA tests yet unfortunately it doesn't narrow out DNA down to counties.

Janey Cusworth

Hi Janey,

The census is free online at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Use the drop down box to select year and then click counties to see the 11: Antrim, Carlow Cavan, Dublin, Fermanagh, Kilkenny, King's, Limerick, Mayo, Meath

A few other R C J Flemings from around 1810:

Name:Judith FlemingDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:01-Dec-1811Address:
Parish/District:BALLINAKILLGender:FemaleCountyCo. Laois
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Patt FlemingMother:Mary Loughnan

Name:Johanna FlemmingDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:16-Jun-1811Address:
Parish/District:KILLGender:
CountyCo. Waterford
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas FlemmingMother:Mary FlemmingOccupation:

Col

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ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Hello, that's great, I'll take a look, thank you!

Janey Cusworth

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