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I am looking for information of 3 Master Mariners/Naval Officers. Is there any lists of ship's captains / crews for ships sailing out of Bangor and/or Belfast?

1. Captain Agnew married Jane Brown in 1842. 

There ia a D Agnew, sea captain, living at 6 Norman St Belfast. 1861 Belfast Direstory. I don't know if he was a Naval officer or a merchant seaman. I think he sailed out of Belfast.

 

2. James Brown born 1808 in Bangor. He was a Master Mariner at his death in 1855 at Maryport, Cumbria.

 

3. James Swan married Margaret Crawford in 1868. His home port was Bangor and Belfast. He died 1st Jan 1906 at Clarendon Dock, Belfast. I'd like to find ourt what ships he sailed on or captained. And his cause of death.

Thanks

Helen

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Helen,

If someone was an Officer in the Royal Navy they would normally appear in official publications with the letters RN after their name. If your ancestor doesn’t have that designation, he was probably a merchant navy officer. To which I would add that RN officers were usually permanently on the move whereas if your ancestors were mostly between Belfast and Cumberland then that also suggests a merchant navy background. You might find something on these sites:

https://www.crewlist.org.u

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/home.jsp

Bear in mind that Belfast to Maryport was (and still is) a short domestic journey so the requirements to produce crew lists for the authorities etc were not the same as for international journeys. Records may be sparse.

The term Master Mariner also indicates a merchant navy background. 

You are interested in the cause of death for James Brown in 1855.  You could order a copy of his death certificate. The only likely death I can see for a James Brown in 1855 in Cumberland was registered in Cockermouth in Apr – Jun quarter, Volume 10b page 307. You can order a copy of that from the Passport Office in England. Order a pdf copy (ie a photocopy) as that will save you £4. (sterling). The current price for a pdf copy appears to be £7.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp

Here’s a link to James Swan’s death in 1906. He died from drowning (probably accidental) and there was an inquest:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05573/4565013.pdf

PRONI may have the inquest papers but there is a detailed report of the inquest in the Belfast Newsletter of 2md January (attached). It seems a there was a strong wind and he may have been blown into the dock when re-boarding his vessel.

Have you searched Newspaper sites to see if any of these Officers were otherwise mentioned?

There was always a lot of commercial traffic between Belfast and Maryport and other ports in Cumberland like Workington & Barrow.  Cumberland had a lot of coal, and so there was lots of employment in mining, steel making and associated industries. Cargoes such as passengers, steel, iron and coal went back and forth all the time.  

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Dear Elwyn,

Thankyou very much for providing such great information. The sites you suggested are real gems and answered a lot of questions.

 

You sent a page from the Belfast News-Letter. I can get free access up to 1900. Is there a site you can suggest for free access after 1900, please?

Regards,

Helen

 

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Helen

No I don't know of any site which gives that paper free. I have a subscription to the British Newspapers Archive. I suspect you would probably need one too to get the more recent papers.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

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