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Seeking Nelson roots in Ireland

My mother, Ruth Nelson, came from an Irish Nelson/Boler line, her grandfatherbeinga Joseph William Nelson (1848-1933) who atsome point ended up in New Zealand. He wasremembered ashaving a very pronounced Irish accent. Joseph William Nelson married Eliza Annie Boler (1863-19??) who came from Yorkshire, described as being "small and dark". I also understand that Nelson is anglicised from the Viking name Nilson/Nilsson. Apart from these details I have no idea where to start, although the family history in New Zealand is much more complete. Another point: Joseph William Nelson was protestant in appears. Does that suggest a Northern Ireland origin/connection?

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Hi DRBENJFP,
I see they married in 1885 in New Zealand. he died 24th August 1933 Kawakawa, Far North District, Northland, New Zealand.
You really need a copy of their marriage to get Joseph's fathers name.
Searching Joseph and then William, as sometimes they have the fathers name first or second, the Tithe Records show quite a few in the Counties...
Cavan, Monaghan, Louth, Kildare, Meath and Galway.
I am not on Worldwide Ancestry now, as they do have more detailed reocrds.
If you get the fathers name then I may be able to help.
I hope this is a help.
Margot

 

 

 

 

 

 

Margot Secrette

Hi DRBENJFP,
I see they married in 1885 in New Zealand. he died 24th August 1933 Kawakawa, Far North District, Northland, New Zealand.
You really need a copy of their marriage to get Joseph's fathers name.
Searching Joseph and then William, as sometimes they have the fathers name first or second, the Tithe Records show quite a few in the Counties...
Cavan, Monaghan, Louth, Kildare, Meath and Galway.
I am not on Worldwide Ancestry now, as they do have more detailed reocrds.
If you get the fathers name then I may be able to help.
I hope this is a help.
Margot

 

 

 

 

 

 

Margot Secrette

Hi Margot:

Thank you so much. This is very useful information. I have retrieved details recorded by my mother and there are some interesting facts there as well. It may also be possible that all other connections aside, Joseph William Nelson came from Northern Ireland since my mother indicated he was Protestant. Let me see what I can access from births, deaths and marriages in New Zealand. Benjamin

pittman.benjam…

Hi Margot:

Their marriage certificate is available online from BDM in New Zealand so will order a copy. Thanks again! Benjamin

 

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Hi Margot:

I can't believe it has taken so long to reply to you. I received the marriage certificate of my Irish maternal great-grandfather, delivered to our home in New Zealand, but at the time was at our other home in Azille, France. Pre-Covid, we spent May to November there every year. Upon return to New Zealand, we sold and packed up our then house here - all the new details included - and the my genealogical records ended up getting "lost" in storage as we bought the new house with tenants and had an extended house sitting job for friends before we returned to France in May 2019. Now we are sorting storage to move into the house where have never lived and lo, my genealogical records box has merged.

Anyway, here are the details: Joseph William Nelson (farmer) came from Killskery Co Tyrone in today's Northern Ireland. I have learned that Killskery is a small villages between Ballinamallard and Trillick and within the Omagh District Council area.The Ballinamallard River flows through the village towards Lough Erne. There are two graveyards, the "old" graveyard surrounded by stone walls has graves from the 19th century.

His mother was Jane Graham and father was William Nelson. On 6 March 1885, aged 28, he married Eliza Annie Boler (aged 21), at The Church of the Holy Trinity, Tauhoa, here in today's Northland, New Zealand on the Kaipara Harbour. Eliza came from Sheffield. Today, at Tauhoa, there remains Boler Road named after her family. Her father was Samuel Boler and mother, Ellenor Goodine. 

Since my last contact also, my DNA profile shows clear connections (62.6%) to Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Greater Manchester, Greater London, Ireland and Scotland and the rest reflects my Māori/Polynesian/Austronesian ancestry weith one outlier, 0.1% native American. This last detail is highly interesting as it indicates that there was some intermingling with someone of native American ancestry who was born between 1680 and 1770. There are several options which present as to how this might have occurred, the most likely being contact with a native American seaman on a visiting whaling or sealing ship.

So, Margot, I may now have the necessary tools to expand on these Irish details. With many thanks again for your help.

Benjamin

 

 

pittman.benjam…

Hi Benjamin,
Well done!
Are you in Ancestry WorldWide?
You will get information in there for the England, some of Scotland records are in there too.
You may get other infor from famailysearch.org    which is free.
Good luck
Margot

 

Margot Secrette

Hi Margot:

I can actually access ancestry.com at the local library here. Thanks so much for you help! I will keep you in the loop.

Benjamin

 

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