Seeking Guckian Family Annaghkeenty Leitrim

Hi

Below is a possible record Willian Guckian & Mary McNama with brother in law John McNama, Patrick Guckian born about 1876.        http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000975822/

There is a Birth record online for Thomas Guckian of Annaghkeenty born to William & Mary McNamara 6th January 1880.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGLK-PF7

Regards

Hello Bridget

I have just read your post today.  We are possibly related.  I am a Guckian and my G grandma was Mary MacNama from County Leitrim. Im not sure of her birthplace but she did eventually live and possibly died in Derrien. Aghacashel in the parish of Kiltubrid.  This was the address of my grandparents where I know Mary lived as an old lady. She married a Guckian and in turn her daughter (Bridget, my grandma) married a Guckian so its a bit confusing at first.  Its a while since I looked at my genealogy information but I will check out what I have and get back to you.

Best wishes

Good Afternoon Elwyn, Gerlish and Roger

Thank you so very kindly for all your assistance, I am beyond excited about connecting, verifying my records and being given the opportunity to find my Irish roots.

I would like to apologize for my earlier posts as they were composed on my new tablet and some sentences and information was omitted; I am now on my laptop.

To verify some details from my records;

• I recently received a copy of Bridget (Butterly) & Patrick Guckian’s marriage record in Knaresborough.
• William Guckian is listed as a Father & Farmer on Patrick’s marriage record and James Guckian as his Witness
• I have a Leitrim Genealogy letter (2005) assisting me in narrowing down Patrick and his family a.k.a. McGuckian and Hackett eventually narrowed down to Guckian. The letter included a record listing Patrick’s date of birth as March 5, 1876. This seems the closest as the family thought he was born on St.Patrick’s day and he wasn’t the type to say anything different.
• The same letter listed a brother named William born 1884 as well as other children born between 1877 and 1890. Also listed is Patrick’s mother Mary McNama and Annaghkeenty, Kiltubrid parish.

I have received replies that may raise a question or just a spelling difference with Patrick’s Mother listed as Mary McNama, Mary MacNama and possibly Mary McNamara or MacNamara. Family stories have been told by different members utilizing all versions of Mary’s surname.

I’m now going through all my records (the family has no known original records) and trying to determine what really links me to the Guckian family I’m following. It is told that both Bridget & Patrick never said much about their families, although I have identified the Butterly family I located as definitely my family.

I am also now uncertain which family to follow: McNama ~  MacNama ~ McNamara ~ MacNamara

I have 1 thing that lines up – the math! My Grandfather (via adoption) passed away on February 22, 1958 with his death record listing his age as 82. I also see his age listed on his marriage record as 31 in 1907 (possibly).

If I follow the Guckian family listing Patrick’s birth as 05-March-1876 – 1876+31=1907 & 1876+82=1958.

Can you assist me with this problem? I assume the area they lived in was fairly small which could indicate recording differences in Mary’s last name, rather than numerous families with similar spellings?

I’m also hoping to connect MegG, who responded to my post with a link to Bridget Guckian who will be my first link to a living Guckian relative.

Thank you for all your assistance in helping me connect my Irish roots. This is very exciting.

Sincerely

Bridget

Hi Bridget

You have had some interesting replies to your post. 

If we can decide that we are the same family I may be able to put a few bits into your jigsaw. 

Much of my information is, like yours, family snippets.  Sadly the ones who knew the most have all passed away now.  I have a scribbled note that I made from information I gathered from my aunt while visiting her in Ireland possibly 25 years ago.

I have my great grandmother Mary MacNama married to William Guckian

Children - William, went to Canada but returned,   never married

Joseph married Bridget McHugh. They had 6 children

Bridget married Terence Guckian (my grandparents) They had 6 children

Patrick married ? Butler (whch is possibly your family) My note is so bad I can't decide if they had 2 or 12 children

2 children died from diphtheria.  However the 1911 Census states Mary had 7 children but only 4 living.

If we are related its amazing that Patrick should come to Harrogate. Its about 80 miles from where my father settled after leaving Ireland and Guckian is a very unusual name in these parts.

I am currently trawling through the Catholic Parish Records for Ireland to see if I can find a marriage cert  for Mary and William.

Please get back to me if any of this seems relevant.  I do have a few certificates etc.

Regards

Good Morning Meg

Thank you so much for replying, I have just located it today.

Reading through Elwyn's last post adds new details regarding the different spellings, ages etc.

While writing my post, and looking at all the bits of information I had, I believe I am confident to move forward with the Guckian Family I have been following.

My Great Great Grandparents then appear to be William Guckian and Mary McNama married around 1873 ; detail located in the extended 1911 Census information listed as married for 38 years as well as the number of surviving children.

My Great Grandparents; Patrick Guckian, married Bridget Butterly of Ballynegrena, County Louth. They married, as far as I can tell in 1907 in St. Roberts Roman Catholic Church Harrogate, Knaresborough, York. Their witnesses were James Guckian and Rose Butterly.

The information I received from Leitrim Genealogy listed Patrick’s sibling as William, born in 1877. As well my mother’s story tells of Patrick and his brother‘s destination being San Francisco, United States; with the 1906 earthquake they then settled in Toronto. If we are reading the dates correctly this would make sense as Bridget would have been with child at the time and travelling that great distance would have been difficult.

In 1907 my Grandmother was born Mary Catherine Hackett in Toronto, Canada and 7 other children were born and survived. My Mother was then born to Mary in 1932, the family then adopted my mother and they became 9 children. We are all connected in the family today accept 1 brother whom I am actively search for in Quebec.

We have no information, details or stories to tell of the name change to Hackett. We do not know where the name Hackett came from specifically but my Mother mentions thinking it was someone Patrick worked for before he married.

I have the address where Patrick lived/worked/met and married Bridget in Harrogate in 1907 at the age of 31. He is listed in the 1901 Irish Census as 25 living with his family in County Leitrim.

Meg, this is super exciting! I have finally connected with living relatives and am hoping you have come to the same conclusion. Do you have any information about William & Mary’s parents and siblings? Also, do you have a connection with our relatives in Ireland?

Thank you again MegG, I’m really hoping we have both come to the same conclusion.

Looking forward to hearing from you. Bridget

hi bridget / meg / elwyn /gerlish / roger

my mother was a niece of patrick guckian, she was the only daughter of his younger brother joseph who remained in the family home in annaghkeenty william and mary had seven children but only four were still living in 1911. patrick (b 1876) william (b1884) bridget (b 1886) and joseph (b 1891 ) i may be able to answer some of your questions about the family

bernie

My mother is from County Lietrim.  I believe she was born in Aughnasheelin in 1924 and lived near Ballinamore.  Her parents names were Patrick and Elizabeth (O'Donnell)  Guckian.  I am interested in finding out more information about her family.  

Kathy - Wisconsin USA

Hello, I am reseraching an ancestor Catherine Hacker (Toronto) but recently learned her name was Catherine Guckian or Guikian.  Born about 1820 in Leitrim.  She married Michael McManus/MacManus February 1842 in Kiloghert   They had a son Patrick b Sept 1854 who moved to Toronto, Canada, as did his sister Catherine McManus who married Michael Dempsey.  Apparently another of Catherine and Michaels children remained in Ireland living in the homestead until death at age 90.  all together Michael and Catherine had 5 children.  I would appreciate any help.  Not sure if connected to the family everyone else is researching.  Thanks

Hi all, I may be a few years late, but I wonder if I am part of your family tree!

My dad Bernard (aka Barney/Brian) Guckian was born in July 1940, in Mohill, Leitrim brother to Shaun Guckian

Hello, I am the granddaughter of Mary guckion. I see Kathy you are the daughter of cathrine and Irving. Mary’s mum and dad are Patrick and Elizabeth. Catherine mov r to the USA and married in 1950s Would be interested in connecting as I really think we’re related!