Hello Glenda,
What was the name of Thomas and Elizabeth Rooney’s mother, including her maiden name? Her full name is important so that you can separate the Rooneys in your direct line, from other Rooney’s in a collateral, or different line, whose father also have had the first name of Constantine.
Copies of the original civil registration death records for the two men named Constantine Rooney, show they did not actually die in Newry, County Down. Their deaths however, were recorded in the Newry Registration District. The death records were found at the irishgenealogy.ie website.
THE 1879 DEATH RECORD
Constantine Rooney died on February 17, 1879 in “Ballaugholly,” County Down. At the time of death he was 88 years old and married. His occupation had been farmer. The cause of death was “Disease of Heart Immediate. Uncertified.” The person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the Newry, County Down registrar was Constantine’s wife, “Bridget in Utterance during last illness.” Bridget’s residence was Ballaugholly. The registrar, Allen Edmond Douglas, recorded Constantine’s death in the Newry, County Down Registration District on March 6, 1879. Constantine’s death entry is the first one in the register at Number 67, which you can access at: https://is.gd/6H1Vpn
Constantine’s town of death, “Ballaugholly,” is actually Ballyagholy, which was in the Civil Parish of Kilbroney. See the IreAtlas Townland Data Base entry at: https://is.gd/GkpwJE
THE 1891 DEATH RECORD
This Constantine Rooney didn’t die in 1892. His death was recorded in the Newry Registration District on what appears to be January 20, 1892. Constantine died in the townland of Ballyvalley, County Down, on December 26, 1891 at the age of 88. At the time of death he was married. His occupation had been farmer. The cause of death was “Influenza 5 days. No Medical attendant.” Constantine’s nephew Patrick, whose last name I couldn’t make out, was present at the death. Patrick’s residence was Ballyvally. He reported the death to the registrar, Allen Douglas. The death record is Number 58 in the register at: https://is.gd/dc9rr6
There are two recorded townlands named Ballyvally, County Down in the IreAtlas. One of these was in the Civil Parish of Clonallan, Poor Law Union of Newry. The second town named Ballyvally was in the Civil Parish of Seapatrick, Poor Law Union of Banbridge. Constantine’s death took place in the Ballyvally townland in the Civil Parish of Clonallan.
Both men named Constantine Rooney were recorded in an Irish property tax record known as Griffiths Valuation. The valuation for County Down was completed by the year 1864.
Each Constantine was recorded in the townland where they died, Ballyagholy, Civil Parish of Kilbroney, and Ballyvally, Civil Parish of Clonallan
The Griffiths Valuation page for Constantine Rooney in Ballyagholy can be found at: https://is.gd/hrSSgi
You’ll see the numbers 1 through 39 recorded in the left margin of the valuation page for Ballyagholy. Constantine is at Number 35, toward the bottom of the page. He leased a house, office, and over 24 acres of land in Ballyagholy from Robert Batt.
The Griffiths Valuation page for Constantine Rooney in Ballyvally, Civil Parish of Clonallan, can be found at: https://is.gd/b2vlI5
You’ll see that many Rooneys had leased property in Ballyvally, most from Robert Batt. Constantine Rooney is recorded at Number 9. He leased a house, office, and over 14 acres of land.
I didn’t find a Constantine Rooney leasing property in Haggardstown, County Louth.
I didn’t find the 1865 and 1868 civil registration marriage records for a Thomas or Elizabeth Rooney, whose father was Constantine. I did locate the 11 November 1868 marriage of a William Farrell and Elizabeth Rooney recorded in the Newry Registration District. This marriage shows that Elizabeth was from the townland of Ballyvally, Down, but that her father was Lawrence Rooney, not Constantine. The marriage is the first one in the register at Number 9: https://is.gd/Exc7TG
Glenda, who did Thomas Rooney marry and who did Elizabeth Rooney marry? It’s possible I had missed locating their civil registration marriage records. I also could not identify their church marriage records for the years 1865 and 1868.
HAGGARDSTOWN, LOUTH BAPTISMS
I located the Catholic parish baptism transcriptions for three different Rooney families in Haggardstown, County Louth, whose father was Constantine. Your information shows your Rooneys came from Haggardstown, Louth, and so one, or all of these families may be in your line, or collateral lines. The earliest baptisms are from the mid to late 1700s.
These baptism were located at the Find My Past (FMP) website.
An index of these baptisms can be found at the FMP link at: https://is.gd/cxEg3X
You’ll first have to establish a free account with FMP before downloading the indexes.
To access the full transcription for each baptism, click on the page icon to the right of each baptism entry. The full transcriptions will give the maiden names of the mothers of all the children baptized in the Haggardstown Catholic Parish from 1746 tom 1846.
In the indexes you’ll see different variations in the way Constantine is spelled… “Congolla,” for instance. This is because the FMP transcriber had a difficult time understanding the spelling of the father’s name in the original Haggardstown baptism register.
The mother in the earliest Rooney baptisms is Rose. When you access the full baptism transcriptions for the four children of Constantine and Rose, you’ll see her maiden name spelled variably as McLone, McKone, and Malone. But these variations of her maiden name refers to the same person named Rose.
In three of the baptism indexes for Rose Rooney (1790); Patt Rooney (1794); and Thomas Rooney (1806); you’ll see that their mother is Mary Goslin. I can send you a copy of the original Haggardstown marriage record for their parents, Constantine Rooney and Mary Goslin, if you’d like it.
You’ll also see there are six baptism indexes for children of Constantine and Sara. In accessing the full transcription for each child, you’ll see that their mother Sara’s maiden name is Johnston. In the 1838 baptism index for Elizabeth, you’ll see that Sara’s first name is transcribed as “Jara,” rather than Sara. But this would be Sara, and is a transcription error.
You’ll also see two 1837 baptism indexes for Mary Rooney. These indexes are for the same child. The FMP transcriber could not tell from copies of the original baptism for Mary, if her baptism took place on 17 January 1837, or17 February 1837.
See both baptism transcriptions for Mary at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2381164
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2381175
Are there any Rooney children in the Haggardstown baptism indexes or transcriptions that you are particularly interested in? Please let me know and I can find copies of the original baptism records for that child or those children in the Haggardstown Catholic Parish registers.
With Kind Regards,
Dave Boylan
SOURCES
irishgenealogy.ie
Ireatlas Townland Data Base
Griffiths Valuation
Find My Past (FMP)
