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Richard Maguire, fruit seller in Kilnaleck, Co. Cavan

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Richard Maguire was born about 1821 and died on the18th of July 1901 in Kilnaleck. He does not appear on the 1901 Census anywhere, although the census was carried out in March 1901, before he died. Family lore is the family came from NI but  Richard lived in Kilnaleck, his  occupation a Fruit Seller is  from 2 sources, Slaters Directory and his death certificate. We know Richard was living in Kilnaleck in 1851, this source is the old age pension application made by his daughter Margaret. This referrs to the 1851 census extracts for verification of her dob. From this we assume she had no birth certificate, but we still tried unsuccessfully to find one. 

From two Griffith Valuation entries we learn that Richard shared a plot with John Reilly, Peter Galligan and James Smith. This plot is close to the remains of of a village forge noted in Griffiths. James Smith and Richard had gardens and may well have been the source of the fruit. There is a second entry showing Richard Maguire with a small house and garden, given as number 60 Main Street Kilnaleck. We have visited Kilnaleck, Co Cavan and Crosserlough  Church as family were RC.   None of the Maguires burried there seem to be part of our family, as far as we know.

  We see from the 1851 census that Richard's wife was Mary. but  no maiden name  is given.  From family names we guess this might possibly be Mary Ann. The only marriage we can find for a Richard Maguire and Mary Ann is in Cork which seems unlikely to be correct. We do not know Richard's parents but could possibly be John Maguire 1791 and Alice 1795 (from 1821 census).  We  would love to know if Richard had more than one child, Margaret. Margaret Maguire was born in 1847 during  the Great Famine and they stayed in Ireland again as far as we know. 

We found possible siblings for Richard Maguire. James 1815, Francis 1818, Mary 1820, John 1823 who may have married Jane Corrigan.   Sadly, so far, there are no dna matches to any of the family's Ancestry tests and no hints on our Family Trees. Any information to confirm or exclude this limited family history, or help in any way, would be extremely welcome.

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Dear SRW:

Thank you for your post to the message board.

We have a local volunteer in Cavan who may be able to assist you.  Please allow her a week or two to reply to your query.  

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Many thanks for your interest in Ireland Reaching Out.

Kind regards,

 

Jane

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Do not seem to have a reply, so guessing something may have gone wrong. Should I post again?

swolsey@hotmai…

Dear SRW,  

I will see if I can help you.  Working from what we know is that Richard died and William McKenna, his son in law was with him at that time.  William married Margaret Maguire on 24 October 1878, no age is given for either of them and their witnesses were Pat Lynch and Rose Healy, it would be worth searching to see if Rose was previously Maguire.  I did find William and Margaret in 1901 and they are with their children Marian & Alice. Margarets age was give as 46, however in 1911, she gives her age as 64, so whether she was being vain in 1901 and then making herself older to aid qualification for the pension, we may never know, she does state that she was born in Co. Cavan.  William died in 1916, so it looks like Margaret sought a pension after his death. I did spend some time searching for Richard's wifes death, without success, but I did not go through them all and there are some not available to view yet, it might be worth your while to purchase the copies, the hope would be to find who was with her when she died, it could be another daughter/son.  

With regard to burial places, sometimes people were buried in traditional burial places, I know one branch of my own family passed 2 local graveyards and travelled several miles to where previous generations were buried, likewise women often buried with their own family and I have found myself read entire headstones and finding some surprising results.  Keep a look out for headstone transcriptions, volunteers do record them when they get funding.

Do search Familysearch.org, sometimes they have records that are not elsewhere.  I searched the newspaper archives without any luck, your family appear to be law abiding, which unfortunately means there are no articles citing them as complainants or defendants.  Sorry, I have not found the information you require.  

Regards Carmel O'Callaghan

Bailieborough CavanIrelandXO Volunteer

Belated thanks Carmel. Sorry my  original reply didn’t post.  I appreciate your time searching for our Maguire family.  I am following up on Mary Maguire death certificates. Assume the  list you referred to would be original certificates that can be seen on irishgeneology. There do seem to be even more death records on Find My Past, Family Search and Ancestry. They do not include an informant.   I have a question that might help others too. Should we be just look at the local registrar office  nearest to where a relation lived? ( Oldcastle I think would cover Kilnaleck.)  Is it correct to say a death would be registered in the nearest place to the home address?. Widening the search to the county, like Co. Cavan, might cover a death in a hospital or another relation’s home but also more unrelated families.

Patrick Lynch and Rose Heary have been researched. Rose married a Philip Lynch.  We know our Maguires are in some way related to the Lynches, bakers from Ballyjamesduff. This information came  from a  census return and a  contact address on an American  emigration document.    Unfortunately no other  record has been found to shed light on a Lynch  marriage  to a McKenna or a Maguire.   Maybe there is a Lynch descendant who might be able to help?  It is  wonderful to read of so many connections being made via Irelandxo. Many thanks to you  and all the volunteers and the teams that post of all the interesting historical Insights and  Chronicles.  They are a welcome sight in my inbox.

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