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RC church location in Mallow

Cork

Hello from Pennsylvania,

My great-grandparents were married in County Cork in 1857. I have a copy of the civil record of their marriage and the top of the record states, " Marriage solemnized at the Roman Catholic Chapel of Glountane in the Registrar's District of Kilshannig in the Union of Mallow in the County of Cork." From this information, can you tell me the church they would have been married in and where it was located?

Thank you for your help.

Marybeth

mpluttenberger…

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The Chapel of Glauntane (aka Glantane, Glantain, Glountane or Glowntain) was in the parish of the same name located in the village of Glantane located about 10km to the south west of the town of Mallow - see Google Map Directions from Mallow. There was a Chapel at Glantane on the same site back to at least the 1830s probably further...

Are you certain about the year being 1857 ?
Catholic marriages were not included in civil records until 1864...

The current church is dedicated to St John the Baptist (see attached image from Google Street view), and on the c1890s OSI map it's shown as St. John's R.C. CHurch
 

p.s. there was also a separate parish with a similar name "Glountane" in Co. Cork near Glanmire - but not in Mallow reg. district or Kilshannig sub-district.

shanew147IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you so very much for this information and yes, I had the numbers in the date reversed.  The marriage date is 1875.  Thank you, again! Marybeth

mpluttenberger…

Hi and thank you again for the information you have sent me.  A family member, who lives in New York, would like to have a tree planted at this church in memory of her husband who recently passed away.  Do you know if this is possible and if it is, who we should contact to accomplish this?  Thank you again, Marybeth

mpluttenberger…

I would suggest contacting the parish directly to ask about your request - their webpage includes an email, it might also be worth trying a letter.

I've asked if any our Co. Cork volunteers might be located nearby and have additional advice (I'm based quite a distance away in Dublin)
 

shanew147IrelandXO Volunteer

The church in question is most likely Glantane in Glantane Catholic parish and located in Glantane village,It was originally Glountane but to avoid confusion with another Glounthane near Cork City the postal service changed the spelling.

parish records began in about 1830 but catholic civil records only began in 1864 so I do not understand the 1857 civil record but it may be a church record.

Send me the date and names and i will check it out.By the way, Glantane was the main Catholic church in the parish and that is how the catholic parish got its name.Under British rule the parish church was the protestant one and all catholic churches were recorded as chapels ,a lower grade of church.

If that is of use get back to me. There are no trees planted in the churchyard. even for those who died fighting for our independence. 

Regards, Donie O Sullivan

Donie O Sullivan

Thank you for your reply, Donie.

The marriage was between William Kelleher and Hannah Lyons in February of 1875. In my original post, I had the numbers reversed.  I have a copy of their marriage record that I tried to attach here but am unable to because it exceeds the 2 MB allowed. 

Would this church be the church now called St. John the Baptist Church? I've attached a photo of it from Google Maps. 

Thanks again for you help. Marybeth

 

mpluttenberger…

Hello marybeth

I attach a copy of the civil marriage at Glauntane which is now spelled Glantane and the parish name is also glantane. The church is dedicated to John the Baptist.the record shows both were living in Curraghbower near Lombardstown in the parish, This is a small townland with a landlord ,George Bolster who owned the lot in 1875.so it would appear that both were working in Bolsters estate. and had accommodation there.Hannah was described as a servant so this is where she worked and William must have worked there also,'. Bolster built a new corn mill there in 1847 and also had a fertiliser manufacturing  facility there based on crushed bones and collected bones from butchers around county cork and also imported ship loads of bones and had workers collecting them in horse carts so your william could be involved in those businesses. Bolster had 7 little houses on the estate ,leased out in 1852 as recorded in Griffiths valuation at that time 

hope this info is of use to you

I will attach a copy of Civil record and an old photo of the original Curraghbower house built in about 1815.The house was replaced many years ago

Regards Donie

Donie O Sullivan

Hi Donie,

Thanks so much for the information about where William and Hannah were living and about the Bolster's Estate its self.  It's good to know any bit of what their lives must have been prior to coming to New York.  Hannah and William had four children before leaving Ireland and I've attached their birth records.  Are you able to determine where the family lived from these records?

William's father's name is listed as James on his marriage record and as William on his death certificate issued in New York. His mother's name listed on his death certificate is Mary Clancey.  I've attached a copy of that certificate.  I have been unable to locate any information on William or his parents prior to William coming to New York.  Would you have any information or suggestions on how to find out anything about them? 

Thank you again for all of your time and help and the great information you have passed along.

Marybeth

mpluttenberger…

The 4 children were born in the townland of Scarragh which is about 2 miles from Curraghbower and they would have had to move out of their accommodation in Curraghbower on getting married. I searched for their place of birth and failed to locate it for both.I did find a William Kelleher in macroom,born in 1846 but nothing to link him to Curraghbower. No baptism for Hanna Lyons but transcriptions from parish registers to databases could miss ones.There were a number of Lyons families in the parish and it is possible Hanna was born in England or elsewhere and her family moved back. A dead end from angle

Regards Donie

Donie O Sullivan

Hi Donie,

Thank you for this information and all of your help!

Have a very Merry Christmas!

Marybeth

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