Quinn family

Hello Frances,

 

I am wondering if the placename you have is the Irish pronunciation for a townland near Ballygar which has been modified over the years with an English ear. There is a placename Cluain Scairbre Thuaidh which today is called Cloonascarberry North which is southwest of Ballygar, Galway.

https://www.townlands.ie/galway/killian/killian/cloonascarberry-north/

You have a list of names and the important element here is the sequence of births which in itself would be a unique feature where there are several Quinn families to be considered who may have a different set of names and if the same have them in a different order.

My initial search has a Quinn family living in Cloonascarberry North, parents a John and Ellen though her name would appear to be Connelly rather than Kilroy. The census return is below

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Castleffrench/Cloonascarberry__North/466653/

The only Kilroy and Quinn combination I have seen for the Ballygar area is with a Kilroy father and a Quinn mother.

There are a number of births after 1911 which also include a James shown as having been registered in 1914 not 1918. Variations in recalled birthdates are not uncommon and I would not dismiss this as a possibility.

Ballygar is very close to the County border with Roscommon which is possibly why you have that reference.

Please let us know the sequence you have in order that I or someone else may look at your enquiry further.

 

 

 

http://gccapps.galwaycoco.ie/Graveyards/Grave/Default.aspx?id=32&gid=10957

Hello Frances,

 

A little more digging and my initial thoughts were correct. The Closhatoher form of the name you have will prove difficult in finding anything of substance on the internet  but it is indeed an area now forming part of the townland now known as Cloonascarberry North. Many people are still protective of their placenames of origin which were reorganised between 1830-1850 with many like Closhatoher being removed from all civil lists.

The Irish for the name you have is Clais a Tóchair. The attachment Closhatoher 1 is a snip of a historic map showing the location with it spelled as Clashatogher another English variant of the name, centre screen. The second attachment is an aerial view of the area today and for a street view of the area http://bit.ly/2bLWUyG .

Thanks P McG, for the quick resonse to my message, both my friend eillen Quinn and my self are so happy that you answer us so quick. I am back to the british Libray this friday to look at some more old maps of west Galway. I also doing my mums family tree and her mum married a folliard and I have some contaction with Roscommon as well. any way not to stray I need to get my head around all this information and I will get back to you.

where are you from???? I do hope it is sunshine where you are this is so exceiting  to find all this i am over the moon.

I love family history

 

Thanks Frances  

Hello Frances,

 

The location of Ballygar is actually part of East Galway rather than the west. A simple map link to the area https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1w7_3ZVM7GXxCEeLwVP7tDGxGopI identifies the graveyard where the headstone pictured earlier and the area known as Closhatoher .

A Thomas Quinn heald a lease on parts of the townland mid 1850's and these are identified within the red borders on the attachment.

Frances, I don't know if this is still an active post but the Quinn's are relatives of mine. I may be able to add something for your friend.   Pat 
 

 

 

Frances, I don't know if this is still an active post but the Quinn's are relatives of mine. I may be able to add something for your friend.   Pat 
 

 

 

"Hi I have been trying to ascertain whether 'Ellen Quinn' was a sister of my grandfather (Patrick Kilroy from Barncurra) or my grandmother (Julia nee Brien from Cartroncal Ballygar Galway, Ireland).

You have made the discovery for me.  John and Ellen Quinn were from the village of Cartron, they were childless.  When Partick Kilroy died on July 11, 1899, he was the father of five children.  The second oldest son Patrick was sent to live with the Quinns as the 1901 and 1911 Irish Census documents!

Very grateful,