Please help

Hi Bruce . . . 

Welcome to Ireland reaching Out . . . and Tipperary . . . 

I began my search . . using " Roots " (paid) . . . for

Mathew Hayes . . b.1802 Tipperary .  +/- 5 years . . . Nothing . . . 

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0804

If you have the time and the patience . . the above site leads you to Nenagh R.C. Parish records . . . for those years . . .

again . . . I searched for the BIRTH . . of Ellen Berkey . . . b.   ???  1800 . . . Nenagh . . +/- 10+++

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Next I searched for a MARRIAGE . . of BOTH . . . 1830 . . . Tipperary . . . +/- 10 years  . . and FOUND  . . (see below)

( witnesses to this marriage were . . . John Ryan and Bryan Farrell ) . .  Brides name spelling . . . is prob. a misspelling of Berkey ( this is a common Tipp. surname )

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DEATH . . of ELLEN . . is 1874 ..Nenagh . . . ( see below ) . . . note . . 1874 . . 67 y.o. . . . . BORN 1807 

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Next I searched for the DEATH of Mathew Hayes . . . who died 1864 . . . Nenagh . .  NO record . . . 

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I went back to BIRTH . . of Ellen in 1807 Nenagh . . . NO record . . . 

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MARY 1831 . . . (see below )

MICHAEL 1834 . .  (see below )

MATHEW . . 1837 (below)

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There is a TAX roll for the period 1823 - 1837 . . . hundreds of Hayes . . . Tipperary 

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=Hayes&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

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NEXT . . . another TAX roll . . . GRIFFITHS . . . 1847 - 1864 . . HAYES ..Youughalarra . . . showing . . . 

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=32&Submit.y=8&familyname=Hayes&firstname=First+Name&baronyname=&countyname=TIPPERARY%2C+NORTH+RIDING&unionname=&parishname=YOUGHALARRA

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BRUCE . . . I hope some of the above is useful . . . to your continued searching . . . Best I could do . . . 

I should tell you there is a Professional Search available . . in NENAGH . . ( Paid svce. . . not cheap )

https://www.tipperarycoco.ie/heritage/genealogy-centre

Cheers . . . Eamonn.

 

 

Hi Bruce . . again . . . . 

First off . . I couldn't understand  your problem  . . . until I decided to go thru the search . . . year by year . . myself

and then I saw your problem . . . 

YES . . . the years  1997 to 1809 are missing . . . (as often happens . . . with old records )  UNFORTUNATELY . . . 

This is why . . when we search . . . Roots / Ancestry . . . we are NOT finding . . the Birth of your Mathew Hayes / Ellen Berkey  c.1802 - 1807 . . 

Sorry for your troubles  . . . BUT . . . 

I even doubt . . if the Professionels  at . . . https://www.tipperarycoco.ie/heritage/genealogy-centre can be of help to you . . as they are researching thru. same sources . . 

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When I go to the records of " Youghalarra " . . . their Register ONLY starts recording BIRTHS . . . in 1828 . . (see below)

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0759

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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/irish-records-what-is-available/graveyards

 

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634769#page/1/mode/1up

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/irish-records-what-is-available/civil-records

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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Nenagh_East_Urban/Silver_Street/1697694/

SO . . . I wondered if any Berkey's . . . were still in the area in the Census of 1901 . . . and as you will see (above) . .  only TWO of that Surname . . John & Thomas show up . . . 

I did a little better with HAYES in 1901  (see Below)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Youghalarra/Pallas_More/1700157/

This Mortimer (unusual Christian name) Hayes . . . may very well be . . . related . . because he shows up as a Farm-hand . . on a Farm in Pallas More  (YOUGHALARRA)

(see MAP below)

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Again Bruce . . . NO further joy . . . but do research all the above . . . . . 

and . . usefully . . . you might enlist the help of the National School in Youghalarra  . . . 

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Youghalarra+National+School,+Monroe,+Newtown,+Co.+Tipperary/@52.8790744,-8.438308,11z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x485c9083c4bfb279:0xd9501e0ebd4a2d0e!8m2!3d52.8790744!4d-8.2982323?hl=en-GB

Schools here are all shut up . . . most likely . . until September . . . 

 

Cheers . . . Eamonn.