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Place of Birth (1861 Census) - Transcription Help

Evening everyone,

I hope you've all enjoyed the weekend.

I've been trying to work out for a while the place of birth on an 1861 census. The place is somewhere in Ireland but I'm struggling with reading it, I'd be grateful for on what the place shows as. If it helps the same person listed County Monaghan as place of birth in a later census.

Many thanks

SonKa

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It might be more helpful if you posted the entire document, sometimes it is easier to see when there is context.

kellyeileen20@…

Thanks for the reply Eileen. I've attached a full snippet including the names. So the ancestor I'm specifically interested in is Rosa Hamill (her first name seems to vary in different records i.e. Rose Ann / Rosanna etc). You'll also see Rosa's mother on this census and her mother Mary's maiden name was Reilly. Rosa's father was Michael Hamill.

Rosa and sister Mary appear together on the 1871 census and both have indeed put County Monaghan as their place of birth. Rosa has a son Patrick McCue born 1868 in tow and she did go on to marry Patrick's father (who was also Patrick McCue).

I once heard that those from remote areas of Ireland would put the nearest town as their place of birth, is there any truth to that? If Rosa and family put Kingston/Kingstown on the 1861 census and were actually born in County Monaghan (according to the 1871 census) perhaps they intended to put Kingscourt (which is just across the Monaghan border with County Cavan) and simply mistook the name Kingscourt for Kingston/Kingstown?

I have noticed there were a number of Hamill and Reilly families within the Magheracloone parish of Monaghan.

SonKa

SonKa,

Research from Ancestry

In 1871, Rose and her sister Mary were living in Scotland. Rose's son, Patrick was also born there. Rose was married in 1871 to Patrick McCue in Scotland they had additional children.

1871 Census

NameRose Ann Hammill
Age26
Estimated Birth Yearabt 1845
RelationshipSister
GenderFemale
Where bornIreland, county monaghan
Registration Number692/2
Registration DistrictLeith South Burgh
Civil parishLeith South
TownLeith
CountyMidlothian
Address10 Coalhill
OccupationRope Spinner
ED54
Household schedule number11
Line19
RollCSSCT1871_169
Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship
Mary Marray20Wife
Am Maria Marray8Daughter
Jasel Marray1 7 MoDaughter
Rose Ann Hammill26Sister
Patrick Mccue3Sister Son (Nephew)

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Regards- Mary

mtvrdk@gmail.com

SonKa,

Was the family living in Scotland in 1861?

Regards- Mary

mtvrdk@gmail.com

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