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Place name query - Gurtnaclogha, Limerick and the Jordan family

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Greetings from Australia,

I am researching a marriage between Mary JORDAN and Patrick FURLONG on 12-February-1887 at Ashford Catholic church, Broadford area. The record shows that the bride was from "Gurtnaclogha" (see attached pdf record). I have searched for this location but cannot find it on any maps. The groom is shown to be from Ballintober where this couple can be found on the 1901 census with five children. The marriage record shows that Mary's father was William Jordan (deceased).

Roots Ireland is showing a Mary Jordan baptised in Killeedy on 25-August-1859 with father William and mother Maria Murphy. This more or less agrees with the 1901 census which shows that Mary is age 40, so born ~1861. One of the witnesses at the marriage in 1887 is a Margaret Murphy which could tie in with Mary's mother being a Murphy. 

Roots Ireland is showing a marriage for William JORDAN to Maria MURPHY on 16-February-1858 at Killeedy, Limerick which would fit with the birth/baptism of Mary in 1859. Of interest to me is that one of the witnesses at the marriage is John JORDAN, the name of my mystery great-great-grandfather who this research is all about..

Roots Ireland is showing a baptism for a William JORDAN on 17-January-1839 at Dromcolligher and Broadford but this would mean that this William Jordan was only 19 on marrying in Killeedy in 1858 - possible? The Catholic register shows that he was illegitimate with father Michael HISTON and mother Bridget JORDAN so William was baptised under his mother's surname - is this normal procedure for this era?

Searching Roots Ireland for a baptism of a Bridget JORDAN around 1820, the most likely candidate was baptised 09-February-1917 in Moonah/Castlemahon which is close to Killeedy and would put her around 21 when William was born. The parents of this Bridget Jordan are John JORDAN and Mary LYONS. Could this be the John JORDAN who was witness to the marriage of  William JORDAN and Maria MURPHY in Killeedy on 16-February-1858.

Apologies. This message started out as a simple query about the locality of "Gurtnaclogha" but any comments on the above speculation re the various JORDANs, please comment, particulalry John JORDAN. 

Regards, Alan Denham

 

 

aldenham@telstra.com

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Hi Alan.

There is a townland named "Gortnaclohy"  in the Civil Parish of Killeedy, Barony of Glenquin, Co. Limerick (Source: Griffith's Valuations)

Many names were often spelled with an "U" rather than an "O", both meaning a field.

Regards,

McCoy

Thanks for that explanation McCoy. Now finding it on a map as a road name, it is in an area where there seems to be a cluster of JORD*N surnames.

An update on above since finding a minor DNA match overnight that leads me in a specific direction re Bridget JORDAN......

Aside from the Bridget JORDAN mentioned above baptised 1817, chosen for her age being ~21 when William was born in 1839, and the general area, there is another Bridget JORDAN with father John JORDAN (and mother Cath. HAYES), baptised 10-Dec.-1825 in Hospital and Herbertstown, Limerick. I disregarded this Bridget as she would have only been 13 or so when William was born in 1839. Even though William was baptised as illegitimate, and took his mother's name, it would still seem very young to being giving birth. The father (Michael HISTON) is named in the baptism record. Would it have been a crime with a court case?

Comments please.

Regards, Alan

aldenham@telstra.com

 

Hi Alan,

I am glad that you have identified the area which you were seeking.

Other issues which you have raised, are best left to your own immediate family for discussion.

Regards,

 

McCoy

Understood. Thanks for your help McCoy. All the best, Alan

aldenham@telstra.com

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