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Phillps and Mccomb.

Looking for Famlies of Edward Phillips and Jane Mccomb who where married Kilcoo County Down 1859 a Parish marriage.

jjbaddeley@gmail.com

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John:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I was able to locate a transcription of the civil marriage record for the 1859 marriage and Edward and Jane were both from the town of Rathfryland/Rathfriland which is in Drumgath civil parish in southwest Co. Down. I looked at the 1863 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Drumgath civil parish. John Phillips was listed living on Downpatrick Street and David McComb was living on Newry Street. John was a reedmaker and David a spirit dealer. http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/down/drumgath.htm

I looked for a civil death record for John and David but I only located possible death index records for David in John in 1868 and 1869.

David McComb Group Registration IDN/RSR District/Reg AreaNewryDeceased Age at Death65Returns Year1868Returns Quarter4Returns Volume No16Returns Page No548

John Phillips Group Registration IDN/RSR District/Reg AreaNewryDeceased Age at Death70Returns Year1869Returns Quarter1Returns Volume No1Returns Page No715

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi John

I couldn't see a religion for either party on the marriage cert so not sure of this is your Edward. It's from www.rootsireland.ie/ & has very little info unfortunately:

Name:Edward PhilipsDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:05-Jun-1831Address:RathfrilandParish/District:1ST RATHFRILAND PRESBYTERIANGender:MaleCountyCo. Down
Father:John Philips

However this now looks promising:

Name:Jane MccombDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:01-Jan-1838Address:BallycoshoneParish/District:1ST RATHFRILAND PRESBYTERIANGender:FemaleCountyCo. Down
Father:David Mccomb

Jane's siblings & mother's name:

Name:Robert MccombDate of Birth:19-Nov-1839
Date of Baptism:03-Dec-1839Address:BallycoshoneParish/District:1ST RATHFRILAND PRESBYTERIANGender:MaleCountyCo. Down
Father:David MccombMother:MaryOccupation:

Minister/Priest: WILSON JAMES.

Name:Andrew MccombDate of Birth:20-Jul-1842
Date of Baptism:07-Aug-1842Address:BallycoshoneParish/District:1ST RATHFRILAND PRESBYTERIANGender:MaleCountyCo. Down
Father:David MccombMother:Mary JohnstonOccupation:
Minister/Priest: WILSON DAVID.

Name:William MccombDate of Birth:16-Jun-1845
Date of Baptism:29-Jun-1845Address:BallycoshoneParish/District:1ST RATHFRILAND PRESBYTERIANGender:MaleCountyCo. Down
Father:David MccombMother:Mary JohnstonOccupation:
Minister/Priest: WILSON DAVID.

Parents' marriage:

Date of Marriage:21-Oct-1836
Parish / District:Drumgath
County:Co. Down
Husband David McCombAddress:Ballycoshone
WifeName: MaryJohnston Lenish
Husband's Father Robert McComb
Wife's FatherName:AndrewJohnston
Witness 1 Thomas Shilliday
Witness 2SamuelNabney
Notes:

Church: 3rd Rathfriland Presbyterian
Minister/Priest: DICKIE JOSEPH.

I could keep working back on this line if you like.

No luck with Edward's siblings or parents' marriage I'm afraid

Neither family is in the Irish Census 1851 (the earliest one which has Down records)

No luck on Griffiths Valuation, Tithe Applotments or PRONI

Col

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Col:

Nice work! Happy New Year!

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

And to you too, Roger!

I wasn't aware you had responded to this one until I posted my response - no one-upmanship intended.

Have applied for an Irish passport; will be back in Cork July & or August this year - must be time for that guinness!!

Cousin Col

ColCaffIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Folks, Happy New Year to you good people for your replies and info. The Phillips are my Wifes and a Friends Family.

What I found out about the Phillips, they moved to North Staffordshire Potteries  in the 1891 Edward Phillips b1831 a Tailor Presser, and Jane b1838 and son Edward b 1874, William J  b 1879 all born Ireland, and the parents where still living in the 1911 censors 80 and 73.

Many thanks again, Good luck for 2018.

jjbaddeley@gmail.com

John:

Happy New Year to you also.

Col:

Simultaneous replies happen all the time. We were eight minutes apart. Shane and I did the same thing two days ago.

Susan and I were in Ireland the first two weeks of November. Great time to go. Enjoy your summer trip.

Too cold to drink Guinness here on the East Coast. We are stuck in a cold weather pattern. Currently twenty degrees Fahrenheit.

Cousin Roger

 

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

I note you make reference to David McComb's marriage to Mary Johnston and his father Robert McComb.

Date of Marriage:21-Oct-1836
Parish / District:Drumgath
County:Co. Down
Husband David McCombAddress:Ballycoshone
WifeName: MaryJohnston Lenish
Husband's Father Robert McComb
Wife's FatherName:AndrewJohnston
Witness 1 Thomas Shilliday
Witness 2SamuelNabney
Notes:

Church: 3rd Rathfriland Presbyterian
Minister/Priest: DICKIE JOSEPH.

I could keep working back on this line if you like.

 

You state you may be able to take it back further. If so, I am wondering if this Robert McComb was the husband of Margaret Sturgeon . I am descended from their son James likely listed here:

Name:     James Mccombe     Date of Birth:     
           Date of Baptism:     30-Mar-1828
Address:     Ballycashone     Parish/District:     1ST RATHFRILAND PRESBYTERIAN
Gender:     Male     County     Co. Down
        Denomination:     
Father:     Robert Mccombe     Mother:     
Occupation:             
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:     
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:

There are also sisters  Sarah b. 1824 and Martha b. 1825 and brothers John  b. 1822 and Robert b. 1803 as well. Robert McComb Sr.'s mother may have been a Colvin out of Hilltown too.

snugaza@aol.com

Many thanks Sngaza

 

jjbaddeley@gmail.com

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