Phelan / Cooper

 

Thank you.    I'm still learning my way around this site. 

Doug Phelan
 

 

 

 

Hi there everyone

I am still searching for factual information about my 3rd great Grandfather Thomas Phelan and his wife Mary Cooper

My records pointed to his birth about 1788 Maryborough,(Portalaise) Co.Laois, Ireland  but now I'm seeing references to Queen's County (Which was a large area).  

 I was able to document his death  on 26 Aug 1865  at  Mascouche (Paroisse St-Henri), Co. L'Assomption, Quebec Canada

Mary Cooper also born about 1788 - possibly in  Maryborough,(Portalaise) Co.Laois, Ireland. She died on 04 Jan 1867 at  L'Assomption, Quebec

Another researcher on Ancestry.com showed that Thomas Phelan & Mary Cooper married at St, Thomas Parish, Portalaise, Maryborough Dist, Queen's Co, Ireland in 1811.  I have not found any indication that this church existed.

They Came to canada between 1826 & 1854 but I still have no record of their arrival.

They had at least 6 children. All born in Ireland and all died in Canada

     William   abt:1811 - 15 Nov 1868  (from whom I am a descendant)

      Mary       1814 – u/k

     Charles    1815 -10 Sep 1874   

     John         1823 -  24 Feb 1888

     Joseph     1824 - 28 Feb 1896

     Michael   1826 -  u/k  

I have been unable to determine any of Thomas & Mary's ancestors, but it is possible that Thomas'. parents were a "Michl PHELAN & Mary DOWLING. 

I have not found any info on Why, when & how they came to Canada. They settled in a small farming community outside of Montreal Quebec.

I’m hoping that someone may have some reference to these family members, or sources that confirm any of this info.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read this lengthy posting.

 

Doug Phelan

Hi Roger

Thank you for your reply and research.    This is a frustrating family group for sure.  The Birth locations for the kids all came from death registers in Canada or in some cases marriage records.  I can find no confirmation of birth , baptism or immigration to Canada of these people.     I'm beginning to think that I need to spread my search into neighbouring towns or Counties.

I did find a baptism record for a Thomas Phelan with parents Michl Phelan & Mary Dowling. But I can't say with any certainity, that it is MY Thomas Phelan.

 Then I located a Notary Public record (index only) about a transaction between Thomas Phelan & Mary Dowling in 1859 near Montreal.... So is it possible that Mary Dowling came to Canada with Thomas & family.... yes it is.   but so far I have only the index and have sent to the Quebec archives for the original document.

You mentioned   :"Not sure how someone had a marriage record from 1811 for Maryborough"      Yes your right  That should have said "BEFORE 1811"  when the first kids were born

 

Thank you for help with research

 

Doug Phelan