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Patterson/Beatty family from Analore, Co. Monaghan

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Hello,

My great grandparents. William and Eliza (Beatty) Patterson, brought up their family at Analore Mill, Corcummins, near Clones.Their children, William, Eliza(beth) Jane, John and Robert were born from 1872 to 1878 and I've been able to find much from the timely records - but am stuck on the parents, William and Eliza, and their families going back in time. They were married in Ballyshannon, Donegal in 1871. Robert Beatty was recorded as her father, but as she married in her mid-thirties, was that perhaps a brother? And is Donegal perhaps a red herring? Were the Beattys maybe originally from Co Monaghan as well?

If anyione has any information about these families, I would be greatly appreciative.  Thank you!

Katthleen Ekroth (nee Patterson)

 

ekroth946@shaw.ca

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Kathleen,

Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church. Elizabeth’s residence at the time of her marriage was Bundoran, Co Donegal.  So that’s presumably why they married there. It’s possible she was born there too, or maybe she was working there and originated elsewhere. You can’t tell from the marriage certificate. It doesn’t record that sort of information.  The church they used appears to be Finner Church of Ireland. Its records start in 1815 so, if it is where she was born, you may find Elizabeth’s baptism and that of her siblings in those records. There’s a copy held in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast (MIC 1/295). In addition some years for that parish appear to be on rootsireland (subscription). There are 3 churches in the parish and it isn’t clear whether they have all 3 sets of records on rootsireland.

You ask whether Robert Beattie/Beatty might be Elizabeth’s brother rather than her father.  The form simply asks for the bride’s father’s name (whether alive or dead). I can’t really see why she’d put her brother instead.  The bride’s father’s name on the certificate doesn’t mean he was present at the ceremony nor even that he was alive.

If you think that the Beatty family originated in Clones too, then you would expect the marriage to have taken place there. That it didn’t suggests to me she’s from Donegal. You could try Clones Church of Ireland baptism records to see if they are listed there though.

If the family were still in Ireland in the 1901 census it would record the county where she was born. I assume they had left by then as I see someone else operating the Annaghkilly mill by 1901.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Elwyn,

Thank you so much for your help and suggestions. Just learning the proper name for the corn mill, Annaghkilly as opposed to Analore, has opened up extra fascinating information! Incidentally both William (1891) and Eliza (1900) had died prior to the 1901 Census.

I can't find the Beatty Family in the Clones Parish records - so will look again at Co. Donegal and as you suggest will search with PRONI and/or RootsIreland.

The reason that I queried whether Robert Beatty might be Eiza's brother is that on the marriage record (1895) of their son William Patterson (1872- 1939) and Susan Steenson, the Father's Name is given as John Patterson. This was 4 years after (father) William's death - so I rather assumed that they'd used the next brother's name (my Grandfather, John).  The only other (disconcerting!) conclusion is that William and Susan aren't part of our family! (I've researched them in some detail so I'm hoping that's not the case!)

Also Elwyn, I failed to mention, in my first email, that I've come to a standstill with William's father, John Patterson.. I'm assuming he was born around 1800 or so - but am not sure where to look for him, his wife and family. I will work on the Tithe Applotment Books, but unless I could find him at Annaghkilly as well, I don't know how I'd go about sorting one John Patterson from all the others!

Thanks so much for all your help,

Kathleen

ekroth946@shaw.ca

In Ireland with genealogicial research, we often refer to the 1800 barrier, because getting back earlier than that is often very difficult due to the general lack of records. Good luck anyway.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Elwyn,

Thanks for the (much needed) reality check.  While not giving up, I will, (with some relief), re-set my expectations!

Thanks again,

Kathleen

ekroth946@shaw.ca

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