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Patrick Ward 1850s

Hello

I was wondering if anyone had any information on my great, great grandparents Patrick and Joanne( not sure about real name as no other Joanne is in the family?)Ward. When my great grandfather, Martin Wardwas married in Ballinasloe in 1887 the marriage certificate had Patrickliving in Mountbellew. Martin married a Margaret Ward from Ballinasloe which is where the family they stayed until. I have looked through a lot of online records but can't find anything.

If anyone has any information, it would be really appreciated. Kind regards Jo

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Jo:

Do you have an approximate year of birth for Martin? Any siblings?

Roger McDonnell

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Hi Roger, thanks for your email.  Martin was born around 1867 and married 22 Nov 1887.  He and Margaret had 10 children with the eldest three born in Roscommon and the rest in Galway.  Regarding siblings, not 100% sure but I believe there was a Patrick, John, Michael,, Laurence, Charles, Kathleen and Ellen - that I know of so there could be more as our families did tend to be large..  These names are all names that have been carried through the family.  This is why I am a bit uncertain about "Joanne".  there are no other in the families, lots of Josephine and Jane or Jean

From the census Martin was a tin smith.  From 1911, they were in Ballinasloe but I cannot find them prior to that.

Margaret's parents were John and Mary Ward from Ballinasloe and she was born 3 Aug 1871 and was recorded as 16 when she married..  On the marriage record it has both the fathers, Patrick and John's occupation as tin smiths

I cannot physically visit the records as I live in Western Australia so any advice would be very greatly appreciated.  Kind regards Jo

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Jo:

Sorry for the delayed response. I think I started looking at the information and then got distracted and moved on. You mentioned that you found Martin and his family in 1911 but nothing before that year. I did locate the 1901 census and they were in Co. Roscommon.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Kiltullagh/G…

As far as I can tell patrick and his wife (Joanne?) were deceased before 1901. I tried to find a Martin Ward baptismal record or civil birth record around 1867 with no luck. I think he was born before 1867.

Later this summer, the National Library of Ireland plans to put the RC parish registers online for free searching. I would suggest that you review the Ballinasloe and Mountbellew records to see if you can find anything.

Roger

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Hi Roger,

Interesting that the names Patrick, Laurence and Martin have featured heavily in our 'Dooley' family from Mount Bellew, Co Galway also.  By chance have you had a Y-DNA test with 'Family Tree DNA' at all?   This is where our results are kept.  The website is www.familytreedna.com   They usually have specials on around Easter and Christmas.

Cheers

Kerryn 

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Hi Roger,

Interesting that the names Patrick, Laurence and Martin have featured heavily in our 'Dooley' family from Mount Bellew, Co Galway also.  By chance have you had a Y-DNA test with 'Family Tree DNA' at all?   This is where our results are kept.  The website is www.familytreedna.com   They usually have specials on around Easter and Christmas.

Cheers

Kerryn 

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Kerryn:

I assume you were writing to Jo Harrison-Ward who posted the message and not to me. As an aside I did test my Y-DNA to track my McDonnells from Mayo.

Roger

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Roger, thanks for looking up the records and the advice regarding the forthcoming  online parish registers which I will keep an eye out for.   I had previously found the 1901 record but had dismissed it as the ages and birth places don't seem to fit. I believe that the three eldest were born in Roscommon (1 son not on 1911 record) and then they moved to Ballinasloe between 1895 and 1897.  I will have a look through the registers when they become available as suggested. Thanks for your help, Jo

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Hi Kerryn, no I haven't yet although I am  considering it.  Do you have any Ward relatives in your tree from Galway? Cheers Jo

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Hi Jo,Marriage of Patrick Ward to Johanne Connors Feb 1857 in Co.Limerick.This looks like a strong possiblity.

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Thanks Wardie.  Funny, Wardie is my younger brother's nickname (in Australia). I hadn't considered anything in Limerick so will have a look, much appreciated, Jo

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Hi can I ask if ur still on this group as I believe I may have a connection xx

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Hi joharrisonward,my name is Mike ward I have just started my family tree I think we both have the same relatives Patrick (patch)and Jenny (JOHANNA) ward mountbellew, Patrick had a forge in mountbellew he lived near the mill his wife Jenny died in 1918 of the Spanish flu while she was working in the mountbellew workhouse. Jenny ward parents names were John and mary ward I believe.patrick and Jenny son Michael was my great great grandfather he was married to mary mcdonagh,Michael had brothers Lawrence and Martin, Martin is buried in ballinasloe,his son was called Yankees charlie.let me know if we are looking at the same tree thanks

Michael Ward

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