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Patrick O'Kane and Mary Kelly

Patrick O'Kane andMary Kelly were my great-great grandparents. All I know about the line are a few family names.

Patrick & Mary (Kelly) had son Patrick (b. )who married Anna (McCloskey).

The name Dungiven was always spoken about as was Limavady. I know Anna (McCloskey) O'Kane was from Limavady. Her father's name was Arthur. I believe Anna and Patrick O'Kane married in 1876 or thereabouts. Anna and Patrick had the following children: Patrick (b. 1879); Mary (b. 1880); Bridget (b. 1881); Sarah (b 1885) & married Joseph McCotter; Arthur (b. 1889); John (b. 1890); Jane (b. 1892 or 1900?); Bernard (b. 1893); Henry (b 1888)and Hannah. Patrick, Mary, Bridget, Arthur & Henry emigrated to US. I knowvery littleabout John, Jane, Bernard, and Hannah. It was mentioned by some family members Hannah became a nun; other family members say she didn't exist. Bernardmarried a woman named Annie ? and they lived and farmed in Corick (is this a part of Dungiven?). They had a daughter named Birdie O'Kane who married a Liam Gormley.

I can't figure out the parish, townland, barony, etc. Any help would be appreciated.

maureen cunningham

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Maureen:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

Patrick Kane/O'Kane and Mary Kelly married in 1853 in Ballinascreen RC church. Patrick O'Kane and Anne McCloskey married in 1878. I also located the 1901 and 1911 census records for the family. They lived in Cashel townland in Dungiven civil parish. Cashel was the McCloskey farm since Anne was listed as from Cashel on the 1878 marriage record. The 1911 census shows nine children and nine living children. I don't think there was a Hannah.

I will look for death records for Patrick and Anne. Also, Corick is a large townland in Dungiven civil parish.

Roger McDonnell

Date of Marriage:30-Jan-1853
Parish / District:BALLINASCREEN
County:Co. Derry 
Husband  PatrickKane
Wife MaryKelly

Date of Marriage:28-Feb-1878
Parish / District:DUNGIVEN
County:Co. Derry
Husband  PatrickO'Kane Address Doon Ballynascreen
Wife AnneMcCloskeyAddress:Cashel
Husband's Father  PatrickO'Kane
Wife's Father ArthurMcCloskey

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Glenshane/Cash…

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Glenshane/Cash…

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Maureen:

I was unable to locate a civil death record for Patrick or Anne at www.irishgenealogy.ie

Roger

 

 

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Roger,

   Thank you so much.  Pieces are finally fitting together.  I know Arthur emigrated to Australia; wanted by British for illegal activities and hid out for 3 years in the outback with a McCloskey cousin then came to US to meet up w/brothers and sisters. 

The information you gave me will help in my further search.  I now at least understand how to look up info in records...your breakdown of parish and district is most appreciated. 

Do you know what the family "nickname" may have been?  I know on the Reilly side there are "Whites" "Culban" and "Screammers".  Once I found out the nickname of my branch I was able to meet some when I visited. 

Again, Thank you very much. 

Maureen

maureen cunningham

Maureen:

I don't know the family nickname.

Also, I just remembered that the Patrick and Anne's deaths likely occurred 1922 or later and since Derry is in Northern Ireland, the death records would be on the PRONI (Public Records Office of Northern Ireland) site   https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/  You have to purchase credits to review records.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

the marriage certificate of Patrick O'Kane and Mary Kelly had the following annotations 3 43 FL AL consas.  After each of the numerical/alpha entries was a small degree sign.  Can anyone tell me what this means?

maureen cunningham

Hi Maureen!

Patrick and Mary were related and required a dispensation from the Bishop to marry. What is confusing to me is that the priest wrote 3+ 3 and 4+4 consas     The consas means consanguinity   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consanguinity  Normally, you see 4 + 4 which means 4 generations back for both parties (back to the gr gr grandparents). Which means the parties have the same gr gr grandparents on one line and therefore are 3rd cousins.

The 3 and 3 to me means that on another line, Patrick and Mary were 2nd cousins and had gr grandparents in common.

The degree sign means 3rd degree or 4th degree. The FL is actually "and 4"

Hope this makes sense.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Roger

Once again, you have come to my rescue.  Thank you so much for all your help.  Maybe I can approach my reseach slightly differently now and get more information.  I think I'll start by writing to the Bishop of Derry; they may have the original dispensation papers which may contain more information.  

Thank you.

maureen cunningham

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