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Patrick Joyce and Margaret Baker of Derryinver

GalwayBallynakill Ballynahinch (Galway)

I have traced my great-grandmother, Ellen Joyce, from her home in Pittsburgh in the U.S., back to the townland of Derryinver on the Renvyle peninsula. Ellen was the 6th of 9 children whom I have identified, born around 1862-1863 (just before civil registration began). She and most of her siblings eventually emigrated to the Pittsburgh area, joining oldest brother Thomas, born about 1848 and emigrated about 1865-1868 (the U.S. records are not consistent about a single date).

Their parents are Patrick Joyce and Margaret Baker, corroborated by many documents in the U.S. From the Valuation Office revision books, it is pretty clear that Patrick took occupancy of the home in Derryinver in 1864 and stayed there until 1883. He died in 1897 in Lettermore. Knowing that there are a lot of people named Patrick Joyce, I have greater hope that there may be information about the Baker family. Having said that, I have been thoroughly unsuccessful in identifying parents for her in that area. Based on her 1901 death record (Dawrosmore), she was born in the early 1830s, but I don't know where.

Any insights or suggestions about how to identify the early lives or parents of Patrick and Margaret would be very welcome.

Jay Shock

Pittsburgh USA

Jay Shock

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Jay:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I checked the 1855 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for the parish. As you likely know there are four Ballynakill parishes in Co. Galway. I identified the following individuals in the Ballynakill parish out near Clifden.  Not sure which one might be the father (or mother) of Margaret Baker. what was the name of the second male child of Patrick Joyce and Margaret Baker?

Roger McDonnell

John Baker Ardnagreevagh

Patrick Baker Ballynew

John Baker Cashleen

Bartholomew Baker Cloonlooaun

John Baker Cloonlooaun

Mary Baker Cloonlooaun

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you, Roger

The children's names (assuming that my list is both complete and accurate) were Thomas, Mary, Michael, Margaret, Peter, Ellen, Honor, Catherine, Anne.

So I have tentatively assumed that Patrick Joyce's parents were Thomas and Margaret, and that Margaret Baker's were Michael and Mary. Having said that, I have found no specific records that would take me to those names at a time and place that seem "right".  My particular hope has been to find a reference to a Michael Baker, since he is male and the Baker surname seems not to be very common in the area.

Perhaps a next step for me is to re-visit the Tithe Applotment records and see if I might have missed anything there. One of my dilemmas there has been to decide on the geographic scope of what might be relevant.

If you have other thoughts in this regard, I'd be very appreciative.

Best wishes,

Jay

 

Jay Shock

Jay - Roger and whoever else may read this.

Jay and I have been in contact through Ancestry.com

My name is Bartley Baker and John Baker of Ardnagreevagh that you mention, was my Great- Great-Grandfather.  I have been trying to find out the names of John Baker's parents, but as yet no luck.

I believe that his father was Bartholomew, but believing it and proving it are two different things !!

Anyhow, I live in the US (in New Jersey) and welcome any hints or research possibilities.  JOHN BAKER WAS MARRIED TO MARY HEANUE C. 1855  and I have Heanue cousins still in Ardnagreevagh where I have visited twice.  Thanks for the help :)

BPBaker319

Bartley/Jay:

The RC baptismal records for the area do not begin until 1869 so too late for John Baker. No marriage record either.

I checked the Tithe listings but no luck. no luck.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Roger, thanks for looking up those sources.

Bart, I am stalled at the same point as when we last communicated. Among other things, I still hope for another DNA match or 2 that may help to narrow the possibilities.

Jay

Jay Shock

Thanks a lot Jay we'll keep digging :)

I am attaching a photo of my Great_Grandfathers taken c. 1935.  Bartley Baker and Peter King of Gannoughs which is in Cleggan.  His daughter, my Aunt Mary gave this photo to me years ago and it's a great things to have.  

BART

BPBaker319

Thanks a lot Jay we'll keep digging :)

I am attaching a photo of my Great_Grandfathers taken c. 1935.  Bartley Baker and Peter King of Gannoughs which is in Cleggan.  His daughter, my Aunt Mary gave this photo to me years ago and it's a great things to have.  

BART

BPBaker319

Thanks a lot Jay we'll keep digging :)

BART

BPBaker319

Thanks a lot Jay we'll keep digging :)

I am attaching a photo of my Great_Grandfathers taken c. 1935.  Bartley Baker and Peter King of Gannoughs which is in Cleggan.  His daughter, my Aunt Mary gave this photo to me years ago and it's a great things to have.  

BART

BPBaker319

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