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Orr Family of Northern Ireland

Robert Orr was in colonial Pennsylvania in 1768 as he had a son born and christened in Philadelphia.  Family history says Orrs were Scots who went to Northern Ireland,.  Hoping to determine parents of Robert and when he possibly was born and where.  So far no info on when he arrived in Pennsylvania but assume in mid 1770's.  Have searched Scottish and Irish records when available but without a birth date has been impossible to know origins.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Susan Mulligan

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Susan,

Your family history about the Orr family sounds correct.  The counties of Ulster were very heavily settled by Scots who mostly arrived in the 1600s. Something like 200,000 Scots moved to Ireland then representing about 15% of the entire Scottish population.  Many were dis-satisfied with life in Ireland and decided to move on again in the 1700s, mainly to North America. (In contrast, “native Irish” did not start migrating in significant numbers till the 1800s). 

You haven’t said what denomination the Orrs were but most probably they were Presbyterian.  So where you have someone who left Ireland in the 1700s, lived in Ulster, had a Scottish surname and was Presbyterian you have 4 separate pointers to them being of Scottish origins. In North America they tend to be called Scotch-Irish. In Ireland it’s Ulster Scots.

I looked at the 1901 Irish census. There were 3052 people named Orr. Almost all were Protestant, either Presbyterian or Church of Ireland.   So all descended from settlers from Scotland or perhaps England. Here’s a link to the Ulster-Scots Agency website which contains general information about your ancestors. There’s still a lot of interest in the subject to this day:

https://www.ulsterscotsagency.com

That said, it’s almost impossible to research someone who left Ireland in the 1700s. The records just don’t exist. Only a handful of the many Presbyterian churches kept records in the 1700s, and there’s no easy way around that.  Even if we knew exactly where your family originated, there’s probably no documentary record of them in that place, unless they were very wealthy or notorious in some way. 

A famous Orr got hanged in 1797, on the basis of probably false evidence, so we know a little about him. He is remembered now as a hero with the by-line of “Remember Orr.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Orr_(United_Irishman)

I would say that you have to hope that someone else will be able to link to your family through a greater knowledge of the family background.  Or possibly you might make a link using DNA.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you for your quick response.  First of all, yes, the Orrs were Protestant.  Robert had his son christened in Christ Church, Philadelphia in 1772.  His wife was Roseann Jones.  Family history says she was Irish but born in America but I have not found anything to verify either.  They named their first son Jones so the normal naming of sons doesn't give a clue either.  In my research, I have found a site following Orr y DNA which may be our only hope.  My husband's mother was the Orr but all previous generations were in the male line of Orrs.  Ancestry DNA, as I'm sure you know, does not give that kind of information.  We have hoped that someone in the Orr family line across the pond would join Ancestry but so far that has not happened.  After years of research, we felt his paternal side was from County Longford but could not verify that until a distant cousin in County Cavan had his DNA done.  That was not just exciting but awesome to have our research vaildated.  So we keep hoping the same will occur with an Orr relative.  I will follow up on the sites you have provided.  Again, thank you so much for replying and for the information.

Respectfully,

Susan Mulligan

Susan Mulligan
Dear Susan, Christmas greetings from Australia. Do you have an email address for use regarding ORR ancestry. My family was located in Ulster, pre-emigration. The frequency of DNA matches with Orr history is significant. I feel it is time to consolidate research on surname ORR as a collaborative effort.
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My email address is mulligan.susan48@gmail.com. Am I understanding that there are DNA matches between you and my husband? That would be beyond fantastic. I hope to hear from you soon.
Susan Mulligan

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