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Information regarding My surname of O'Dell, I know my great grandparents came from Cork, my great grandmother was from kinsale her maiden name coughlin/coughlan. Appreciate any help with thanks Mark O'Dell

Mintoe

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Mintoe,

It would be helpful if you could provide some more information. Do you know your great grandparents' names? Any approximate dates. Do you know your grandparent's name? Were they born in Cork? When/ where they got married? To whom?

Regards- Mary

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Mintoe,

Based on no date, I found this record on Irishgenealogy (free website). Are these your great grandparents?

NameSamuel G. O'Dell
AgeFull
AddressCork Barracks
OccupationSergeant in army
Civil StatusWidowed
Father's ForenameSamuel.G
Father's SurnameO'Dell
Father's ProfessionSoldier
SignatureSamuel George O'Dell
Party 2
NameAnne Coughlan
AgeFull
AddressKinsale
Civil StatusSingle
Father's ForenamePatrick
Father's SurnameCoughlan
Father's ProfessionFisherman
SignatureAnne Coughlan
Marriage Information
Date of Event01 March 1903
Marriage Solemnised At AddressKinsale
Solemnised According Tothe Rites and Ceremonies of the Roman Catholic Church
Solemniser TitleC.C
Solemniser ForenameJ.
Solemniser SurnameMcDonnell
Witness
Witness 1Jeremiah Murphy
Witness 2Mary Ellen Coughlan
Other Information
Group Registration ID1652134
RegistrarGeorge Vickery
Registration District/OfficeKinsale
Registration SR District/Reg AreaKinsale
Registration CountyCo. Cork
Date of Registration31/03/1903

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Regards- Mary

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Mintoe,

The following from the Surnames of Ireland by Dr. Edward Mac Lysaght:

ODELL - An English name, formerly ODLE and quite incorrectly written O'Dell, connected with Co, Limerick since the mid seventeenth century.

Regards,

McCoy

Mark,

Are Samuel O'Dell and Ann Coughlin your great grandparents? If so, Ancestry has records for this couple. Samuel was born in India in 1870.

NameSamuel George Odell
GenderMale
Baptism Date25 Aug 1870
Baptism PlaceDum Dum, Bengal, India
FatherSamuel Odell
MotherAnn Jane
FHL Film Number499039

Perhaps Samuel's first wife. Catherine died in 1901.

NameSamuel George Odell
Marriage Age27
Record TypeMarriage
Birth Dateabt 1870
Marriage Date25 Oct 1897
Marriage PlaceChichester, St Andrew, Sussex, England
FatherSamuel George Odell
SpouseCatherine Martha White

Ann and Samuel had a son in Kinsale, Cork in 1904, Samuel G. O'Dell. You can find record on Irishgenealogy. At some point before 1907, they moved to Broughton, Lancashire, England and added to their family.

1921 England Census

NameSamuel George Odell
GenderMale
NationalityResident, British Born
Marital StatusMarried
Age50 Years 10 Months
Relation to HeadHead
Estimated Birth Year1870
Birth PlaceDum Dum, India
Residence Date1921
Residence Street Address106 Dudley St, Nr Broughton
Residence PlaceSalford, Lancashire, England
OccupationCommisionair Time & Wage Clerk
Occupation Code758/6
EmployerMessers Cohen & Wieks Rainproof Garment Markers
Employer Code341
Place of WorkDerby St, Cheetham, Manchester
Number of Children Under 165
InhabitedY
WardAlbert Park
Parliamentary DivisionSalford Pb, North Div.
Registration districtSalford
Registration District Number465
Sub registration districtBroughton
Sub Registration District Number2
RespondentS G Odell
Enumeration District NameSalford Cb
Enumeration District28
Schedule341
Schedule Type CodeE
Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship
Samuel George Odell50 Years 10 MonthsHead
Annie Odell41 Years 11 MonthsWife
Samuel George Odell16 Years 8 MonthsSon
Jane Ann Odell13 Years 9 MonthsDaughter
Cecil Victor Odell9 Years 11 MonthsSon
Kathleen Mary Odell7 Years 1 MonthDaughter
Lilian Grace Odell4 Years 7 MonthsDaughter

NameSamuel Geo O'Dell
RankSergeant
Discharge Age39
Pension Age39
Record Typeregister
Birth Dateabt 1870
Birth PlaceDum Dum, Bengal
Discharge Date14 Jan 1909
Pension Date7 Jan 1909
RegimentManchester
Regimental Number847

Regards- Mary

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Hi Mary thank you so much ,yes that's my great grandparents. My grandma was Lillian, she always insisted it was spelt O'Dell while others spell it differently. Your help is much appreciated kind regards Mark

Mintoe

To Mr McCoy thank you for your reply ,I have had replies from limerick message board from people with same surname and spelt the same also from other Irish Heritage sites .appreciate your response kind regards Mark

Mintoe

Mark,

Curious, was Samuel. G. O' Dell's father born in Limerick? Samuel's father, Samuel, died in India in 1870. He was born abt. 1839. Samuel (1839-1870) and Ann Jane/ Jane Ann had another child in India in 1866, Henry Arthur. Jane Ann McManon O'Dell, father-Owen McManon, married, after Samuel's death, Richard Watts in India in 1871.

NameJane Ann O'Dell[Jane Ann Mcmanon]
GenderFemale
Age25
Birth Date1846
Marriage Date22 Feb 1871
Marriage PlaceDinapore, Bengal, India
FatherOven Mcmanon
SpouseRichard Watts
FHL Film Number499041

Your great grandfather's mother must have died before 1881 because he shows up living with Richard Watts in 1881 in England with, I assume, his new wife Sarah.

1881 England Census

NameSamuel G. O'dell

Age11

Estimated Birth Yearabt 1870

Relationship to HeadStep Son

GenderMale

Where bornDum Dum, East India

Civil parishLeamington PriorsCounty/IslandWarwickshireCountryEnglandStreet Address52 Clemans St

OccupationScholer

Registration districtWarwickED, institution, or vessel3

NeighborsView others on pagePiece3091Folio82Page number42

Household Members (Name)AgeRelationship
Richard Watts41Head
Sarah Watts32Wife
Samuel G. O'dell11Step Son
Grace Alice Watts7Daughter
Maria Simpson17Servant
William Hawkins24Boarder

Regards- Mary

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Hi Mary wow thank you ,I have no idea ,my gran only said her great grandad was a monk from sasketechewan French but gave up the church moved to Ireland and his name was Sacha toulier but that's a guess in spelling .wow Mary you are brilliant I'm so appreciated. I'm hoping to come to Cork this year to see my roots .is there any evidence of my coughlan family ? I absolutely think your brilliant .bestest regards

Mark

Mintoe

Hi Mary I don't know there's every chance limerick born as our surname is connected with limerick

Mintoe

I wish to say thank you to all amazing volunteers ,yes that's my family ,could anybody see about mcmanon father Owen mcmanon please

Mintoe

Hi

1901 Census

Residents of a house 49.4 in Fisher Street (Kinsale Urban, Cork)

CaughlanPatrick63MaleHead of FamilyCatholicCo CorkFishermanRead and writeEnglishMarried-
CaughlanCathern63FemaleWifeCatholicCo CorkHouse KeeperCannot readEnglishMarried-
CaughlanAnnie22FemaleDaughterCatholicCo CorkGenl. Domestic ServantRead and writeEnglishNot Married-
CaughlanMary Ellen19FemaleDaughterCatholicCo CorkGenl Servant DomesticRead and writeEnglishNot Married

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I didn't find Ann's birth record but found her sister's. Mother- Catherine Allen

Name:Mary Coghlan
Year of Birth:1881
Group Registration ID:10740071
SR District/Reg Area:Kinsale
Mother's Birth Surname:Null
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Possibly Jane's death record

NameJane Ann Watts
Age30
Estimated Birth Yearabt 1847[abt 1847]
Registration QuarterOct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration PlaceWarwick, Warwickshire, United Kingdom
Death DateDec 1877
Inferred Death PlaceWarwickshire, United Kingdom
Volume6d
Page358

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Irishgeneolgy click on record image

Name:Kate Coughlan
Date of Death:1912
Group Registration ID:5221503
SR District/Reg Area:Kinsale
Deceased Age at Death:70
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Name:Patrick Coughlan
Date of Death:1907
Group Registration ID:4906650
SR District/Reg Area:Kinsale
Deceased Age at Death:70
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Mintoe,

Might be Jane Ann and Richard's son. I did not see him on the 1881 census??

NameRichard James Watts
Baptism Date4 Feb 1877
Baptism PlaceLeamington Priors, St Mary, Warwickshire, England
ParishLeamington Priors, St Mary
FatherRichard Watts
MotherAnn Jane Watts

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Since we don't know which country Ann/ Ann Jane/ Jane Ann was born, she is difficult to research. Ancestry suggests this might be her.

NameAnne McMahon
Baptism Age0[0]
Event TypeBaptism
Birth Date1849
Baptism Date6 May 1849
Baptism PlaceCreggan Upper, Armagh and Louth, Ireland
Parish VariantsCrosmaglen, Crossmaglen
DioceseArmagh
FatherOwen McMahon
MotherBridget Holland

Mary

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Another child born in India

NameAlicia Odell
GenderFemale
Birth Date18 Feb 1868
Baptism Date23 Feb 1868
Baptism Age0[0]
Baptism PlaceNeemuch, Bombay, India
FatherSamuel Odell
MotherAnne Jane
FHL Film Number523927

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Sadly she died

NameAlicia Odell
GenderFemale
RaceWhite
Age1
Birth Date1868
Death Date24 Aug 1869
Burial Date24 Aug 1869
Burial PlaceDum Dum, Bengal, India
FatherOdell
FHL Film Number499035
Reference ID499-035

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If we have identified the correct Jane, this might be her father's record from Ancestry.

NameOwen McMahon
Baptism Age0[0]
Event TypeBaptism
Birth Date1820
Baptism Date20 Aug 1820
Baptism PlaceCreggan Upper, Armagh and Louth, Ireland
Parish VariantsCrosmaglen, Crossmaglen
DioceseArmagh
FatherOwen McMahon
MotherMary Martin

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Record from RootsIreland In addition to Ann Owen and Bridget had the following children- Mary 1854, Bridget 1856, Judith 1859, and Patrick 1861

Creggan Upper, Armagh - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI

Date of Marriage:05-Aug-1847  
Parish / District:UPR CREGGANCounty:ARMAGH
HusbandWife
Name:OwenMcmahonBridgetHolland
Address:
Denomination:Roman CatholicRoman Catholic
Occupation:
Age:
Status:Not MarriedNot Married
Husband's FatherWife's Father
Name:McmahonHolland
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:ConnellyWilliamMccullahSusannah

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Maybe, Bridget's death record. RootsIreland

Name:BridgetMcMahonDate of Death:01-Sep-1877
Age:60Parish / District:CROSSMAGLEN
Address:ClonaligCounty:ARMAGH
Status:MaDenomination:Civil Parish / District
Occupation:Farmers wifeSex:Female
GraveyardInformant
Graveyard:Relationship:Householder
Parish:ARMAGHName:Mary Brady
County:ARMAGHAddress:Clonalig
Notes:
Cause of Death: Broncitis Duration: 1 year Cause of Death2:  Duration:
 Certified: no Medical Attendant: no Qualification: no entry Present
at Death: yes Date of Registration: 08/10/1877 Registrar: James Coyne
Comments:

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Record from Ancestry

NameBridget Holland
GenderFemale
Event TypeMarriage
Marriage Date5 Jun 1847
Marriage PlaceCreggan Upper, Ireland, Ireland
Parish VariantsCrosmaglen, Crossmaglen
DioceseArmagh
SpouseMcMahon

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