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Missing birthdates of Woods uncles.

Hello I'm back again,my mother had seven brothers I have the birth dates for 5 of them through my cousins but there are two nobody knew anything  about, my remaining uncle was not able to help either,the first is James Woods I know he was born 1931 and died in 1957 age 26 in Rhodesia eastern cape South Africa as I was given a picture of the grave stone with the dates on.

The second one is Michael and someone told me he might have been in a home

 as he had a breakdown of some sort,I will give you details I have got,I am only a novice a this.

John born 20 October 1921-2002

Ellen born 3 October 1922-5 November 2007(my mother on her birth certificate it just has Cornonagh as Place of birth

Patrick born 9 March 1925-10 July 2007

Bernard (Barney) born 31 July 1927-5 September 1999 in America 

Peter born 19 November 1929-13 May 2003 in America 

Joseph 17 December 1932(Living)

Parents Patrick Woods and Annie McShane

Any help would be appreciated I am doing family tree's for my family and cousins.

trishbeer@yaho…

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Trish,

This looks to be Patrick & Annie’s marriage in Crossmaglen, Co Armagh in January 1921:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1921/09215/5333546.pdf

I think this is Patrick in the 1901 & 1911 censuses too:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Creggan_Lower/C…

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Creggan_Lower/Cornoonagh/333062/

Cornoonagh is in Co Armagh and from 1.1.1922 onwards that became part of Northern Ireland.  Assuming that’s where Patrick and Annie lived after they married, then the birth records you need are recorded in GRONI. It’s the only repository for birth, death and marriage records in what is now Northern Ireland, 1.1.1922 onwards. (Ancestry and other websites don’t have them). You mention that Cornoonagh is where your mother was born so it does look as though that’s where they stayed.

Births in Northern Ireland within the past 100 years, marriages within the past 75 and deaths within the past 50 aren’t searchable on-line. They are open to the public, just not on-line. If you know all the key details eg exact date and place of birth, parents names etc, you can order a copy of a certificate from GRONI for £15. https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

But if you don’t have all the information, you need to get in touch with them to get a search done.  They will do a 5 year search for £7 and if they find a matching certificate you can purchase it for £8, coming to a total of £15. It will be posted to you a few days later. You pay over the phone using a credit card. You type your number in on the phone keypad. They don’t know what it is.  They won’t deal with these searches and orders by e-mail because they need you to type the credit card number in yourself.

Phone: 0300 200 7890 (+44 300 200 7890 from outside the UK)

You know that one of the missing births was James in 1931 so he shouldn’t be to difficult to trace. For Michael, you will need to ask GRONI to search from say 1923 to 1933 and if necessary, a few years beyond.

There’s a report in the Drogheda Argus & Leinster Journal of 13th July 1963 about a Peter Woods of Cornonagh who had been arrested for drink driving.  He admitted to having had 5 bottles of stout. The Magistrate gave him the benefit of the doubt and he got off the charge. So the Woods family appear to have still been in that area in the 1960s. Presumably Peter’s departure for the US was after that period.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Yes that is the right family my uncle peter got married in America in 1966 he met a girl from back home over there,his brother married her cousin.

My grandmother lived at Cornonagh until she died about 1980,I was there in 2007 when my mother died to plant a tree,one of the family from down the road bought it and has knocked it down and built a modern bungalow I'm so glad I have my photo to remember it by even wth the outside toilet and hens visiting.

I am going to give my cousin a laugh when I ask if it was his dad drunk,he will probably agree it must have been,all the children were born in America but mike lives in Ireland.

Thankyou for the phone number I will ring on Monday I got my mother's and grandparents births and marriage from them when I first started 2 years ago, also grandads brother and sister and gg parents marriage certificate 's from them,I had to fill a form in then which I got wrong they rang me and helped me order them all it will be easier for me over the phone ,Thankyou for your help.i might be able to order my great grandfathers birth certificate now Roger has given me the details.

trishbeer@yaho…

Yes that is the right family my uncle peter got married in America in 1966 he met a girl from back home over there,his brother married her cousin.

My grandmother lived at Cornonagh until she died about 1980,I was there in 2007 when my mother died to plant a tree,one of the family from down the road bought it and has knocked it down and built a modern bungalow I'm so glad I have my photo to remember it by even wth the outside toilet and hens visiting.

I am going to give my cousin a laugh when I ask if it was his dad drunk,he will probably agree it must have been,all the children were born in America but mike lives in Ireland.

Thankyou for the phone number I will ring on Monday I got my mother's and grandparents births and marriage from them when I first started 2 years ago, also grandads brother and sister and gg parents marriage certificate 's from them,I had to fill a form in then which I got wrong they rang me and helped me order them all it will be easier for me over the phone ,Thankyou for your help.i might be able to order my great grandfathers birth certificate now Roger has given me the details.

trishbeer@yaho…

Trish,

I have attached the newspaper article if you want to see the whole story. Extreme right hand column of the page.

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thankyou for the newspaper report,some more family history for me to have.

trishbeer@yaho…

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