Michael Foley and Julia Barry from County Cork

Dear Kathleen:

Many thanks for your post to the Ireland Reaching Out message board.  I have forwarded this post to a volunteer in Cork who may be able to assist you with the location in Cork that your Foleys and Barrys came from.  

Kind regards,

Jane

Frank,

Thanks so much for following up on my question!

I am on Ancestry and one of the trees is mine (ClarkinFoley). I was recently in contact with the owner of the other tree who lives within 15 miles of me. When I asked her about her having Michael Foley born in Killarney on 15 Dec 1817 (Schott-Wolf-Foley-Baker), she said that was only a guess. With that said, family lore is not always correct so perhaps what their son/grandson Bartholomew said about them being born in County Cork was inaccurate.

Just yesterday, I was at the Minnesota Genealogy Center and poked around FindMyPast. I was looking for a Michael Foley, born in Cork about 1818 with a father named John, since that is the name of their oldest son. There were 2 that seemed the most promising because not only did they have birthdates in the range shown on the headstone but had a father named John and a mother named Margaret (although, by traditional naming conventions, Margaret may be Julia's mother's name).  These 2 were:

- Michael Foley, baptized 29 January 1818, living in Enniskeane. Parents John Foley and Margaret Holahan. This seems the most likely because of the 1818 birth year.

- Michael Foley, baptized 16 April 1820, residing in N R in Clonakilty parish. Parents John Foley and Margaret Collins

I did no lookups on a Julia Barry, born about 1828 nor a marriage of John and Julia in about 1846. 

Our family will be staying in Dingle for a week but they they fly off to Italy and Spain while my husband, Patrick Foley and I will tool around Ireland visiting locations of our heritage particularly Tydavnet for my Clarkin/Clerkin line, Annascaul for my Shea line, and hopefully somewhere else for the Foley line! Hoping we can get down to Skibbereen as we have been there once before and it is gorgeous!

Thanks!

Kathleen 

Thanks for whatever help you can give.

I have come across some records in Ancestry that may pertain to my Michael Foley and Julia Barry. I would love your opinion and perhaps insight since I do not have a FindMyPast nor RootsIreland subscription.

There is a Julia Barry, born 2 Jul 1828 to John Barry and Margaret Murphy of Newmarket, Cork. The birthdate corresponds to the 1880 US census where Julia stated she was born in July 1828 in Ireland.  Her mother's name, Margaret, corresponds to her first daughter's name.

I did a search on Griffith's and found 4 John Barrys in the Clonfert parish. I also found 6 John Foleys in the Clonfert parish.

Where should I search for a possible marriage in the Newmarket/Clonfert area? 

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Kathleen

Foleys from Cork/Kanturk.

I don’t know if this is relevant to the Foley enquires already posted. I do have a record of a Daniel Barry marrying an Honoria Foley. Honoria is my grandfather’s sister.

My grandfather John Foley emigrated from Ireland to New Zealand in about 1878. He was baptised according to the Parish Baptism transcription on 11.5.1856. His residence, B Moore (presumably Bawn More-alternative parish names Cooleavota, Kanturk and Cooleavota, Diocese Cloyne.

Parents. Patrick Foley and Honoria Swiney (Sweeny/McSweeny/ or similar.

I have traced my grandfather’s birth records as a son of Patrick and Honoria. He had siblings-Daniel, Margaret, Mary, and Honoria commissioned a gravestone to her parents in the Newmarket cemetery and I have used this information as a  basis for my consequent research along with some entries  in my grandfather’s diaries.

The Townlands of  Bawnmore,  Kippagh, (mentioned in my grandfather’s diaries) and Castlekevin are relevant. I have at least nine entries of Patrick Foley as a tenant in either Bawn More North or South and a record of his death at Castlekevin. John Foley’s farm in New Zealand was called Bawn More and his diaries note the townland of Kippagh. I cant find any records of him at Kippagh

I would like to find Patrick Foley’s marriage details. He married an Honoria Sweeney/Swiney or similar and died in 1894 while residing in Castlekevin.

I would find to find more about Daniel, Margaret and Mary Foley. Mary it seems stayed in Ireland,Honoria married my granduncle Daniel Barry, and the other two may have emigrated to the States.

 

Long time no post but I think I may have found something and would love your expert opinions:

Summary of above:

My Michael Foley (born about 1818 reportedly in County Cork) married Julia Barry (born about 1828 reportedly in County Cork). In 1850 they appear in Fishkill, Duchess County, NY before eventually moving to Illinois.

I want to find out where they are from in Ireland.

1. Oldest son is John. Oldest daughter is Margaret. 2nd son is Michael.

2. Working on the assumption that Michael's father was John and Julia's mother was Margaret, I started looking in Griffith's for Clonfert parish for all the John Foley's and compared their townlands. I found 2 John Foley's in Duhallow 1, Kanturk, Commons South. One lived on position 39.

3. Looking at the Johanna (I believe Julia can be a nickname for Johanna), Michael and John Barry's, I find a Johanna owning several parcels in Commons South including parcel 43...a hop, skip and jump from John Foley in #2 above. I also found several records for a Michael Barry and John Barry. 

4. A John Barry and Margaret Murphy had a daughter Julia baptized in Newmarket (just down the road) on 2 Jul 1828. This corresponds to my Julia's birth year of 1828 on US census documents.

5. My hypothesis after reviewing all the documents is this. Let me know what you think:

Johanna Barry (Commons South, parcel 43) is a widow and grandmother of my Julia. Johanna and her deceased husband had a son John who married Margaret Murphy. John and Margaret had a daughter Julia, born 1828. Julia met her grandmother's neighbor John Foley (Commons South, parcel 39). Julia marries John's son, Michael Foley! Ta, da.

An afternote: There is a marriage record for a Michael Foley and Joha Barry dated 10 Nov 1846 at St. Finbar's, Cork City. My next hypothesis is to see if I can find any emigration records for this couple since they were in Fishkill, NY by 1848 when their oldest (known) child, son John, was born.  They may have traveled to Cork and married before emigrating. I also will check for marriage records in Newmarket.

Many thanks for reading through this long post!! Ireland XO has been so very helpful to me in solving puzzles with all my other Irish branches.

Back again at my Foley/Barry family. We will be in the area in November 2024 and we would love to see the general area where the family came from.

I believe Foley (John) was from Carrigaline parish, Moneygurney townland, lot 7a on the 1852 Griffith's. 

I believe Barry (John) was from 4K away in Liscleary parish, Meadstown townland, lot 16 on 1850 Griffith's. This is very nearby a Roger McGrath who married Julia's sister.

I'm wondering if there is a volunteer in the area who could meet us to show the general area. We don't need anything exact - highly unlikely there is anything there from Michael/Julia's marriage in 1846 and 1847 emigration to New York.

Thanks! Kathleen (kathleen_foley@hotmail.com)