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McTameny/Macatomony/McEtamany Family

Researching the above family (have found numerous variations of the name).

Sally Ann/Sarah Ann was born in 1845 in County Armagh.  Advised that her father was Eugene McTameny and mother Elizabeth Hennan/Pennman.  Have found 10 children born to Eugene and Elizabeth but no mention of Sally Ann/Sarah Ann.

Sally Ann married a Merit McLinden on August 28, 1857.  Merit was a freeholder in Tauaghmore, County Armagh.  Merit and Sally Ann went to Australia on the "Morning Star" and disembarked in November, 1858.  A son Arthur was born in 1859 and Merit died in 1859.

I have Australian family information but am hoping to find out if Sally Ann was the child of Eugene and Elizabeth.

I also found a Sarah McTameny baptized March 23, 1845 in Seagoe but her father is listed as Jno and mother as Sally Hendren.  I do not believe this is the correct Sarah.

On her Australian marriage certificate to Thomas Preston she lists her father as a farmer but on her death certificate he is listed as a saddler.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Cherrill

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Cherrill,

You say that Sally/Sarah Ann was born in 1845 and married in 1857.  She’d only have been 12 in 1857 so that year of birth is not likely to be correct. If she married in 1857, then she was probably born c 1835 or thereabouts.

I can see baptisms for various children to Eugene & Elizabeth in the Seagoe parish records. The earliest appears to be Henry baptised in October 1839. Seagoe’s records start in 1836 but have a gap in 1837. In my opinion Sally must have either been born before 1836 or in the 1837 gap and that will explain why you can’t find her baptism. The record doesn’t exist. Likewise her parent’s marriage. I can’t find it. Seagoe’s RC marriages start in 1836, so if they married before that as seems very likely, then there’s probably no record to find.

I noticed this death of a Eugene McAtamney in Lurgan in 1892. He was a saddler. Informant was his daughter in law Catherine. His age is given as 58 but most ages on death certificates in the 1800s were just guesses and could easily be out by 10 years or more. Might be your family.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

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About the surname, according to MacLysaght's Surnames of Ireland, the original Irish form was Mac an Tiompánaigh, meaning "son of the tympanist/musician".  It originated in County Down, where it was anglicized as (Mac) Timpany, Atamney, Tameny, Tempany, and even Tenpenny.  The other variations you listed are not mentioned, but are logical attempts at anglicization, depending on who was making the attempt (non-Irish speakers often had/have trouble hearing some of the sounds of the Irish language).  He mentions that the name is now rare in Down, but can also now be found in Derry (usually as MacAtamney).

As to the first name discrepancies, Eugene was a common anglicization of the Irish name Eoghan, which is actually an old form of the name John, based on the original Hebrew name (other forms of John being Seán, which came with the Normans, and forms like Ewan, Iain or Ian (which were more commmon in Scotland).  If the family named a child Eoghan, the parish priest may have insisted on "Latinizing" it to Eugene or something like Eugenius in the parish register, although the family may never have called him that.  Later on, he may have chosen to use John instead, so I wouldn't necessarily rule out the John Tameny whom you found.  His wife, Sally Hendren, had a Norman surname which is found mostly in Armagh, according to MacLysaght, though the usual spelling is apparently Hendron (sometimes it became Henderson).

The same is true of the names Sally and Sarah, which were both used as anglicizations of the Irish name Sorcha.  The family may have named the child Sorcha, but the priest may have insisted on using Sarah in the parish register, because he thought it was Latin (it's actually Hebrew, of course).  She may later have chosen to use Sally when she grew up, and it's entirely possible that she was never actualy called Sarah by anyone but the priest (although sometimes Latinized parish regster names did "stick").

You may already be aware of this, but there are records in the Family Search database [https://www.familysearch.org] for both families which you mentioned:  Eugene McAtamney at MR63-8LZ and John Tameny at GQHY-CFZ.   Eugene appears to have married a second time, after his first wife died, to a much younger woman, and appears to have had a total of 16 children, but none named Sarah.  Given that both families lived in Seagoe at the same time, they were probably related, so perhaps someone has mixed up some of the info.  At Family Search, you can see the screen name of each person who creates or modifies a record, and can send them a private message, so if you weren't already aware of those records, you might try contacting the people who input them and compare notes.

kevin45sf@yahoo.com

So both Eugene McAtamney & Sarah McAtamney can be found in 1864 Griffiths for Aghacommon, Armagh, Oneilland, east  Seagoe
(http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file…)

The marriage for Sally Ann McAtamney & Merit McAlinden places Sally McAtamney in Aghacommon and Merit McAlinden Tannaghmore.

A Hugh (Eugene/Owen)McAlinden, Sr can be found in TANNAGHMORE, WEST.  Both McAtamney & McAlinden have Lord Lurgan listed as landlord.

Since your Sally Ann was married in 1857 and in Australia by 1859, I would consider the possibility that Sara McAtamney of Aghacommon might be your Sally Ann's widowed mother and Eugene her brother.  You might also research the family of Hugh McAlinden of Tannaghmore to determine if he is the father of your Merit McAlinden.

 

 

reets

Okay so here is my guess based on the records I've come across.

Sarah McTamney was the daughter of John McTamney & Sally Hendren born 23 Mar 1845. Eugene McTamney married to 1st to Eliz Hennan and then to Mary Walsh was her uncle. Sarah McTamney listed in the griffiths next to Eugene was Sally Hendren widow of John McTamney.

Merit James McLyndon was born 19 Dec 1838; he was the son of Murty McLyndon & Ellen Lennan. An Arthur McLyndon & Sally Lennon were the sponsors.

Sarah McTamney had a sister Margaret born 4 Nov 1841.

While a birth for Sarah in 1845 would make her only 12 for a 1857 marriage it should not be discounted. Her uncle Eugene married an 18 year old when he was in his 50's.

 

reets

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