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Still looking for any family or relatives of Edward Mcguiness (b.1848(Keady Armagh?)) and Elizabeth Grimley (b Abt 1845 Drumgreenagh District, Keady, Armagh) they were married 9th May 1867 Roman Catholic church of Keady, Armagh, their children were Peter (b 27 August1869 Drumgreenagh, Derrynoose, Keady, Armagh) , Sarah, Ann, Catherine, Mary, Edward, and Owen, I do not have any details of these children.

They Edward, Elizabeth, and Peter (possibly other children) moved to East Hetton, Coxhoe, Durham England, not sure when to work in the mines.

Peter married Janet Clark(Asselbrough) 25 April 1920 at St Josephs, Cornforth, Sedgfield, Co Durham.

Any information gratefully recieved, Thankyou.

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The only births I can see in Ireland are for Peter and Sarah. The family appear to be in Coxhoe in the 1881 census. Children Peter & Sarah are shown there as born in Ireland, the rest in Co. Durham. Sarah was born c 1871 and Ann c 1874 so the family must have moved to England around 1872/3. (That's a domestic journey and no passenger records were ever kept for that type of travel).

Here’s Sarah Maginness’s birth on 9.7.1871 at Drumgreenah:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

 

 

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thanks Elwyn,  Is there anyway to tell, where the family lived in Drumgreenagh before there departure to England?, I take it no census list are available.  

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The 1867 marriage certificate tells us that Elizabeth was living in Drumgreenagh then. Her father was John Grimley, a dealer. (Peter’s address was Belfast though presumably he also came from the same general area).

The couple lived in Drumgreenagh for 5 or 6 years. If they held a house of their own it would usually appear in the Valuation revision records. I have checked those records for Drumgreenagh but there’s no McGuinness household there. However John Grimley is listed having plot 34a which was a 9 acre farm. My guess is that Edward & Elizabeth stayed with him.

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/searching-valuation-revision-books

Griffiths Valuation contains maps of the townland with the plot numbers shown. From that I can see that the Grimley farm today is on the Madden Rd, north of Keady. A few hundred yards south of the T junction with the B132.

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameS…

The Grimley family had gone from the townland by 1876. Looking at the deaths in that area (Armagh civil registration area), there are 2 that might be John Grimley. One on 26.11.1869 aged 65 and the other 14.12.1874 aged 75. You can view the original certificates on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate.

The Irish censuses for 1861 to 1891 have all been destroyed.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thanks Elwyn  Probably not worth investing in a local visit to Keady, as I live in Australia, long way to come.

Cheers Roger

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