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McDavid/Burke/de Burgh

I have been researching my McDavid/Burke ancestors that originated in Ireland. My 5x great grandfather was Patrick McDavid b. about 1752 he is said to have been brought to America by his parents John Mattison (sp) McDavid (b. about 1712 in Antrim)and Isabell. I understand that the McDavids were orignally Burkes or De Burgh of Clanmories. I believe that some of the other information I have may incorrect. If anyone is familiar with this family or has any information I would very much appreciate your help.

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Brittany,

McDavid is not a common name in Ireland. Looking at the 1901 census there are less than 20 of them, mostly in or near Co Antrim which ties in with your family background. Most were Presbyterian, indicating Scottish origins. In the 1700s (which is when you have said your ancestors left Ireland) the vast majority of migrants from Ireland to North America were Presbyterians (native Irish didn’t start migrating in large numbers till the 1800s). That and the general location (ie Co. Antrim where so many Scots settled) points to them being descendants of Scots who arrived in Ireland in the 1600s. In North America they are known as Scotch-Irish. In Ireland we tend to call them Ulster-Scots.

The other family name you have (Mattison) also sounds Scottish rather than Irish. So that might be Mathieson or Mathewson. Both common Scottish surnames to this day.

My feeling therefore is that your ancestors are probably descended from Scots who arrived in Ireland in the 1600s (100,000 Scots settled in Ireland then). Your particular family might be related to the Irish Burkes – I can’t say -  but in general terms I suspect it’s unlikely. I think the Burkes were from Mayo which is a considerable distance from Antrim, and not somewhere significant numbers of Scots settled.

There are almost no church records in Antrim from the 1700s and without an exact parish it’s unlikely you will locate any records of your family in Ireland.

Possibly DNA testing may be a way of matching with others who have additional information about where the family originate. Family Tree DNA reportedly has more people with Ulster roots than any other company. That obviously increases the chances of finding a match. You might want to try them or, if you have already tested, you can transfer your results to them for no fee.

The North of Ireland Family History Society are running an Ulster DNA project and can offer FTDNA testing kits at a reduced price.  http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).

 

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you so much for the information. I have not been tested yet, but I am planning to do that.  I am not familiar enough with the counties and parishes of Ireland to determine what lies where, but the information I have from family members who have done thier research in the past have mentioned a Glinsk Castle and that our ancestor Sir Ulick Burke, 3rd baronet of Glinsk,  constructed it and lived there until they were forced to migrate to America to flee religious persecution.  Do you think there is possilby any truth to this? 

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Brittany

My 6th generation great grandfather James McDavid (1766-1853) had a brother by the name of Patrick McDavid (1752-1814). Their father, my 7th generation great grandfather, was John Mattison McDavid (1712-1783) who was born in County Atrim. His father, James Burke McDavid was born in Glinsk Castle in 1680.  Could this be the same McDavid line that you have as those McDavids came from the Burgh/DeBurg lineage?

David S

 

Smittywayne

David, it sounds very possible that it is the same line. I have those same names and dates in my research.

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Brittany

The first mention of the McDavid surname Ulrick Burke McDavid (1640-1708) from what I have researched. His wife was Ismay Kelly McDavid- born in 1645. 
Ulrick's father was Sir Edmund Burke(1622-1680), 2nd Baronet of Glinsk. What has always baffled me is where did the McDavid name come from before Ulrick Burke McDavid. I have researched the "Burke/Burgh/De Burg" name back to 1108 and further through lineage as far back as Robert 1, Duke of Normandy and further to Harlevin/Herluin/Herlin De Burgo (922-?) and that's as far as I have gotten on the Burke name. But as far as I can research as yet, the McDavid name started with Ulrick Burke McDavid. Hopefully something will turn up to answer the question.
 

David S

Smittywayne

Some may have seen this, but attached is a descendant chart for the MacDavid branch of the Burke Irish line.

  Please contact me if you have information to add.

Jerry Ferrell

jerald.ferrell@icloud.com

Jerald Ferrell

Brittany, it seems you have a hunt quite similar to mine. I did come across an archived website for the Glinsk community. There they summarize a work by Martin Ward called "History of Glinsk." The appearance of "MacDavid" associated with the Burke surname occurred with Sir David Burke, d 1329. They refer to this line as the "MacDavid Burkes."

My problem is finding father/mother/siblings for James Burke McDavid, born in 1680 in Glinsk Castle. He does not show on the list of Glinsk baronets. I'm not familiar with how the succession of baronets go, but it seems there were 13. If every male child was a baronet, then some of my information or conclusions must be in error. If some male children were not baronets, then the trick is to find which baronet had James.

David's research sounds fascinating!

Steve Fisher

fisher54@netzero.net

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