Margaret KELLY, b.~1852, possibly in Roscommon or Galway, DNA connections to Bridget Rena Kelly b. ~1846

Amber,

I attach some detail for Bernard Kelly - County Galway - Griffith's Land Valuation printed 1855/1856. Free Site

Marriage records for a Bernard Kelly 1841 to 1854. Parish records - Subscription site www.rootsireland.ie

The townlands are recorded for each individual in Griffith's. County Roscommon has a few "Bernard Kelly" in Griffith's.

What were the names of John Joseph Curran's parents?

You probably have already sourced those records.

Regards,

McCoy,

Many thanks for looking into this and posting those Griffith's valuations! I had a go at it earlier, but I always end up getting discouraged because with all the similar names, I wonder how I will ever know which is the right family. I guess I just need to take all the info I can get and hope eventually there will be some sort of crossover. I can't view the marriage records since it is a subscription, does it list the wife on the record as well?

My best theory right now based on the DNA shared is that either Margaret Kelly and Bridget Rena Kelly are 1st cousins, which would make Bernard Kelly and James Kelly brothers. OR, perhaps Bernard Kelly is the quite older brother to Bridget Rena Kelly and he had his first child, my Margaret, when his younger sister was only 6. In that case, James Kelly and Amelia would be the parents of both Bernard and Bridget Rena. 

John J. Curran (1853-1921) is born in Boston and his parents were William Curran (~1817 - 1884) and Catherine Franklin (~1824-1910), both born in Ireland. William lists his parents as John Curran and Elizabeth. I found only one immigration record that I wasn't able to rule out as being for William Curran arriving in Boston, and it has him from County Carlow (but not sure if it's actually correct, just another clue). That record says he was born 10/22/1821 and immigrated 8/12/1843 (possibly).

Catherine Franklin's parents are Luke Franklin and Margaret Young and they have 2 children, Catherine and Margaret, in Ireland, then immigrate to Nova Scotia where they have the rest of their children. I have many confirmed DNA matches through Catherine's sister. I don't know where they are from either, but perhaps the most promising record I have found is one for a marriage of a Luke FRANKLEY to a Margaret Young in County Carlow. 

I was going to do another post about them, but feel free to provide any insight!

Thanks!!

Amber

Amber,

Kelly - Bernard - Marriage  August 3rd1841 to Bridget Cunniffe. Witnesses: Thomas Cunniffe and James Cuddy.

Parish - Glinsk - Barony of Ballymoe.

Kelly - Bernard - Marriage  June 3rd 1848 to Bridget McNamara. Witnesses: Thomas Delany and Bernard Delany.

Parish: Laurencetown - Ballinasloe

Source Subscription Site www.rootsireland.ie

In that time period there were many maternal deaths, so it is always possible that there was a second marriage.

Regards,

Amber,

Transcription record of marriage of Bernard Kelly in 1841.

Source: Subscription site www.findmypast.ie.

Record for Bernard Kelly in 1848 not on this site.

Regards,

Thank you once again for those names and dates. I am currently building out a google map with all the possible hints and will be adding DNA match locations as well and hopefully some pattern will emerge that will narrow in on any of these areas. 

Ok, for anyone still following, I have now found another link to the third group of Kelly/Kelley DNA matches. Two more people now connected via another child of Thomas Kelley and Mary Quinn, so I can rule out the one line, which is great. Somehow we have a 1.Bernard Kelly/Bridget, 2.James Kelly/Amelia and 3.Thomas Kelley/Mary Quinn, all connecting via DNA. All would have been born in the early 1800s, probably between 1800-1830 based on the ages of their children (known children born 1852, 1846, and 1844/1852, respectively, all born in Ireland). All three couples were married in Ireland. 

I'm wondering if there is anyway to access records and cross reference the three sets of marriages and see if there is any location in common between the three names? I am targeting Galway and Roscommon now as that's where DNA is loosely indicating, but could be elsewhere. Connacht is definitely the region of interest. These 3 families must relate to one another and hopefully lived near one another.

The search continues!

Hi! I’m not sure if this will (still) help, but Thomas Kelly and Mary Quinn are my 2nd great grandparents from what i can tell from my research (through my grandmother on my dads side) they lived in “Monavea, Crettyard, Laois, Ireland”. Mary Quinn was super active in the church there (baptized 15 of her kids) and they were married there as well from what i can tell! Two of their kids were named Bridget and James, not sure if that matters but the irish love to reuse a name! 

Hello, thanks so much for your reply! Unfortunately, I think your couple is a bit later than mine as I believe they were married in the 1830s. And my 2nd great-grandmother was born in 1852. But, I have come across your Monavea family in my research! All these people with the same names! 😂