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Margaret Elizabeth Heaslip Family

Born September 22, 1877 Cork county (Cavan) parents believed to be Thomas Richard Heaslip and Susan Harris. Margaret arrived in Portland Maine, March 15, 1911. Occupation listed as "domestic" but had a "milliner's" status in Dubliln, Ireland. Margaret's siblings included Isabella, Emily, Robert, Richard, Jack, and perhaps Ernest.

Anita Fownes

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This looks to be your family in Dublin in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Ushers_Quay/Dolphins_Barn/1284224/

Emily Gertrude’s birth is registered in Drumkeeran, Co Leitrim on 7.10.1878.  Isabella was born Tullyard, Tyrone on 3.5.1875. Margaret Elizabeth was born in Co. Cork according to the census but I don’t see her birth in the statutory records.

Parents appear to have married in South Dublin in 1861. The marriage is listed in the indexes on Irish genealogy site.

This looks to be Susan in 1911. So they had a son George as well as the children you mentioned:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Terenure/Kimmage_Village/42572/

Richard died 18.1.1905. Usual residence 12 Abercorn Tce, Dublin. He left a will which should be in the National Archives in Dublin. Executors were George & Richard Heaslip. Probate was granted 8.2.1905 in Dublin.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you for that timely information on the Margaret Elizabeth Healip family. I agree with the 1901 census information; it matches what I know. 

I disagree with the 1911 census, none of the children are of the Susan and Richard family that the 1901 census shows. It is doubtful that the probated will is correct for this family. However, I will check it out.  

I had hoped that someone out in the wide world would have checked in to my post, but it is early days. Thank you again. 

Anita Fownes

You say that “none of the children are of the Susan and Richard family that the 1901 census shows.” That would be because they are grandchildren. They are not Susan’s children, save for George.

George married Ada Maria Nugent on 15.1.1901 in Dublin. Marriage certificate gives his father as Richard, retired. Bit of a coincidence if it's not the right family.

Death of Susan Heaslip 29.6.1926 aged 88. Widow. Wife of a schoolteacher. Usual residence 78 South Circular Rd, Dublin.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you for your patience, Elwyn: Speed reading is one of my downfalls.  I didn't connect the relationship between mother and head of household. 

I was on the National Archives website, did a search but didn't come up with Richard's as you did. I investigated the cost of procuring the will. I am not familiar with the copy service options. Currently it seems the digital image is sufficient 2 I presume if on site, 20 by post onto cd/dvd (seems excessive) What would you advise?

I will spend more time searching the site to reach the information that you procured on my behalf. This is an exciting new lead into the family. 

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Anita Fownes

Wills probated in the Republic of Ireland, from 1858 to 1921, are on this site :

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/home.jsp

Thomas Richard Heaslip died 1905 is on that site. I also notice that there is a will for Richard Carson Heaslip in 1915, whose address was New South Wales. Presumably his son?  You might be interested in that one too. (If Richard was in Australia but had a probate file in Ireland, it tells you he had assets in Ireland).

Irish wills from 1922 onwards are on this site:

http://www.cigo.ie/pages/guide-to-wills-and-administrations

They are indexed by date of probate so that can be a year or two after someone died.

A digital image is all you will need.  The main document is the will (typically 1 to 3 pages), and I would suggest you must get it. You are unlikely to need the Grant of Representation. It’s the document in which the executor confirms that he/she has been named as executor in the will (or appointed as executor by the probate court), and undertakes to carry out the duties properly. He/she usually shows their relationship to the deceased (if any) and sometimes it contains marital information about the deceased, and information on any living dependents. The schedule of assets is what it says it is. A list with values of the deceased’s assets.  Usually about 5 pages on a pre-printed form, needed for calculation of any estate duty (inheritance taxes).  With low value estates (ie below the estate duty tax threshold) it sometimes doesn’t contain much eg house value £300, money in the bank £63 plus the cost of the funeral, and any debts. With a bigger estate, it sometimes goes into supplementary pages of detail about investments, land owned etc. There can be land valuation reports and statements of account from financial institutions. You’ll need to decide how interested you are in that. 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

 

 

Hello, I am currently researching George Heaslip (brother of Mararget Heaslip, parents Thomas Richard Heaslip and Susan Harris). 

Children of Thomas and Susan Heaslip I have found are:

George, John, Lucy, Isabella, Emily Gertrude, Mary and Margaret, Richard, and  Ernest. 

 

Sophie Mogford

I did not persue the wills as suggested because of the cost.

I agree with the 1901 census info, I an unaware of sibling George but agree with the siblings you list. 

 

I've posted a small amt of  photos, info and background on 'family search.org' for this Heaslip line 

 

If we could communicate via email I could provide you with the 'tree' but as I don't include George, that may not be of interest to you. What year was G. born? 

 

I only have dates of birth for Richard 1874, Isabella 1875, Margaret 1877 and Emily 1878  

 

Anita Fownes
Anita Fownes

Let me know if my post appears ----- re George Heaslip family 

Anita Fownes

Hello, I can't see a post re George Robert Heaslip. From my research, Margeret Heaslip looks to have emigrated to Canada. 

Sophie Mogford

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Death for George Robert Heaslip in Bray in 1945:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

The informant for the above death was his daughter Violet.

Violet Jessie Heaslip married Thomas Pappin in 1931:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

Violet herself also died in 1945:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

The informant was her sister Ruby Walsh.

Irene Ruby Mary Heaslip married William Walsh in 1944:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

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