LUTHER - BORRISOKANE, TIPPERARY: A Further Search

Hi, I have seen records for Joseph.
This is Griffiths Valuation in 1852 he was in SHESHERAGHMORE. As you look at the map, it show the area in the square, look to the left and you will see a water area, this is Lough Durg.
Crotta is on the banks. 
Shesheragmore is on the south of the town of Borrisokane. It doesnt state where the dwelling place is.
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch…

This link.......(I know this may be slow but please stay with me) shows the town, you will see a shop....Lawler.......turn the view around and you will see Heenan on the right, click on the arrows on the road and follow......do not touch the little yellow man, I just did and it sent me down Finnoe. keep clicking, you will pass a school on the left and a water tower, then a green road information sign, you are now going into Shesheragmore. I don't know when these houses were built but there were a few cottahes in that area.
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@52.996323,-8.127293,-21.32h,5p,1z

Joseph, married in 1865 and had a son in 1867
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
It says ......he was a coachman, they were in a the Parish of Terryglass. I can't make out the townland name, sorry.
I hope this is a help.

Margot

Hi Margot,

Thank you for the great visuals! I could spend the entire day "wandering" along these streets and roads. 

The civil record of Joseph's marriage actually provided a piece I had not had before: his father's name (also Joseph) and residence (Kilbaleer?). This could be a terrific addition - and different from what I'd surmised before, because this Joseph Luther (the one marrying Ony Lynch) may have been the brother of my 3x-great-grandfather, William Luther. He was 55 years old at the time of this second marriage and went on to have 4 more children. Unfortunately, he seems to be the only member of the Luther family remaining in the area.

So now I will pursue a Joseph Luther in Kilbaleer - maybe Kilbileer? - with a birthdate around 1775-1790, while I continue to unravel what happened to William, Margaret and their 4 sons!

Happy New Year!

Frances

 

 

Hello Frances,

The Luther's of Youghal and Clonmel descend from this John Luther:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Luther-2461

Who is supposed to descend from the Luther-Essex family.  Luther-Essex claimed to be descended from the brother of the great reformer.  There is very little evidence of these claims, so it is difficult to know if they are true.

I'd like to swap research notes, I'm desceded from the same family as you. Not sure if you can send a   Direct message on this site. But I mange the profile on wikitree link above.

there is also more of the family tree on family search, but I'd say some of it is a bit speculative:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/GHZY-1TK

but there is a catholic branch to the family on there from this person onwards:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/GHLR-QFK

James

 

James, the wikitree data is phenomenal. I've been dancing around the Guy Luther/Anthony Guy Luther lines for years and I'm pretty certain I can make the connection working with this information.

Which of the Luther brothers is your great-grandfather? My great-grandmother, as I mentioned was Catherine Luther (1833-1871) who married Roderick Kelly and lived in Nepean, Carleton County, Ontario, Canada until her death.

I don't know what happened to my 2x-great-grandfather William Luther (Margaret Clarke's first husband) as I've found no record of his death. However, Margaret Clarke Luther married a man named William Lewis (1810-bef 1848). They turned up in Janesville, Rock County, Wisconsin, where their son, Richard Henry Lewis (1842-1917) was born on 01 Apr 1842.

Richard lived a fascinating life as a Great Lakes seaman, a civil war soldier, a pony express rider and a cowboy/rancher. He eventually settled in Wyoming. He married twice having one son with his first wife and eight children with his second wife. There are a great many Lewis descendants today.

Apparently William Lewis died in Wisconsin not long after his marriage to Margaret Clarke Luther. Margaret then married John Dewan/Dwan (1815-1871) and they returned to Canada. During their marriage, there were 2 sons listed as "William Dwan" and "Richard Dwan" whose birth years coincide with the YOBs for William Luther and Richard Luther - so whether Margaret's Luther children used the Dewan/Dwan name or whether John had sons from a previous marriage is unknown. In Canada, John and Margaret (Clarke Luther Lewis) Dewan first settled in London, Ontario and had 4 children together before moving to Ottawa, Ontario. 

There are a few men named Luther in Wisconsin with the right ages/birth years, but records are sparse (so far) and I've not been able to pinpoint any as William and Margaret Clarke Luther's sons. 

There are also a huge number of descendants of Roderick and Catherine Luther Kelly, both in the U.S. and in Canada.

I can't tell you how great it is to finally find someone else with a connection to my Luther line! Please email me at travelingmamma@yahoo.com and check out my tree under username FSheldrick on ancestry.com (caveat: I'm working on recovering lost data on this tree).

Frances

 

 

 

 

You have made a really great work. I work on my family tree, and it's so hard to find all my relatives as I have almost no info about them and I don't know where to start 

Being a relative of Martin Luther King is a great honor, as for me. I've done the research for my college, using https://studymoose.com/martin-luther-king about him and his activity. It's interesting to study such great people's lives, and if you have some relations to them, it's doubly interesting. But, there is a lot of information on the Internet about M.L. King, so it's important to use only trusted resources. I hope that you will find everything you want to know. 

Tom Hendricks, are you related to the Luthers? 

My strongest recommendation to those with Irish heritage (and everyone else as well) is to get a DNA test and use it. You'll need to also build a tree as far as you're able, but DNA can open lines you'd otherwise never find. This is especially true for Ireland with the many lost, incomplete or never-created records.

For the record, Tom, I started doing genealogy in 1983 with the names of 3 grandparents, 1 great-grandparent and the countries they came from (no town, county or family). Research consisted of sitting in the public library paging through directories and microfilms, trekking through cemeteries and - believe it or not - knocking on people's doors. DNA and online trees and databases have really made the job easier.

I encourage you to work on yours - let me know if that includes Luthers and if I can help.

BeckyPage, thank you. I have yet to make the connection to Martin Luther (actually, if the stories are accurate it's his brother, not him) but if I do, I'll keep your link at hand.

Frances