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Looking for Jane McBride family who married Samuel Fisher

DonegalAllsaints (Donegal)

Hi & thank you in advance. I am looking for information on a relative - 5 direct ancestor. Jane McBride - information I have is:Parents John McBride & Sarah Hood

Birth

All Saints, Donegal, Ireland

1816

States both Samuel and wife Jane came from County Donegal. REF:Australia, New South Wales, Index to Bounty Immigrants, 1828-1842

  • Immigration

    Departed Londonderry and Arrived on ship Helen, occupation nurse. Came to Australia on the 'Bounty' immigration scheme

    Botany Bay, NSW, Australia. Arrived July 21, 1841

    July 21 1841

  • Occupation

    nurse (this was on immigration papers.

  • 1842

    Age ~26

    Birth of daughter:
    Sarah Ann STACEY (born Fisher)

    NSW, Australia

    1842

    Name Registration Number Father's Given Name(s) Mother's Given Name(s) District Unavailable FISHER SARAH A 2198/1842 V18422198 47 SAMUEL JANE REF: BMD NSW

  • 1844

    Age ~28

    Birth of daughter:
    Mary Fisher

    NSW, Australia

    1844

    FISHER MARY 5094/1844 V18445094 47 Father:SAMUEL Mother:JANE REF: NSW BMD

  • 1847

    Age ~31

    Birth of daughter:
    Jane BORSERIO and PIANTO (born FISHER) (My great great grandmother)

    Sydney NSW Australia

    Dec 7 1847

    (2 rego's no) 6324/1847 V18476324 45C & 1307/1847 V18471307 49 REF:NSW BDM

  • 1849

    Age ~33

    Birth of son:
    Samuel Fisher

    Sydney, NSW, Australia

    Dec 30 1849

    New South Wales B.D.M. Registration Number. V18491157 50/1849 1849 & New South Wales B.D.M. Registration Number. V18496833 45C/1849 1849

  • 1865

    Age ~49

    Marriage of daughter:
    Jane BORSERIO and PIANTO (born FISHER)

    Spouse: Martino BORSERIO

    Victoria, Australia Registration #: 00666

    St Killians catholic church Sandhurst bendigo Victoria Australia

    Mar 23 1865

  • 1872

    Age ~56

    Marriage of daughter:
    Sarah Ann STACEY (born Fisher)

    Spouse: Charles STACEY

    Paddington NSW Australia

    1872

  • 1880

    Age ~64

    Death of husband:
    Samuel FISHER

    Paddington, Sydney. New South Wales. Australia

    1880

    REG:3773/1880 REF: NSW BMD

  • 1892

    Age ~76

    Marriage of daughter:
    Jane BORSERIO and PIANTO (born FISHER)

    Spouse: Giovanni PIANTO

    Jane was recorded as a widow on marriage certificate.

    Bendigo, Victoria

    Aug 14 1892

  • 1893

    Age 76-77

    Death

    NSW, Australia

    1893

    Janes surname is also known as Brede or Bude (The way people interpret it with spelling back then). I am presuming Samuel & Jane had a child that came with them BUT on the Immigration papers it states CHILDREN: One child died on passage. (REF: Australia, New South Wales, Index to Bounty Immigrants, 1828-1842 1813) Thanks Michelle

bose_mish@live.com

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OMG!! I can't thank you enough for taking the time to find this for me. I went to the Epic centre in Dublin a couple of weeks ago before I come back to Australia (I wish I would have contacted this site first!! They said there was nothing they could help me with) . I thought I was at a dead end (I didn't think to look Northern Ireland as it was all just Ireland back in the day) and you have made my day, very much appreciated. I am guessing but I guess the child that died was the little boy John - Thank you for giving him a name. (This has now encouraged me to seek more advice on this website in regards to the rest of this family that I can't find. ) Again Thanks & Regards Michelle Borserio

bose_mish@live.com

Quick question also?? TheParish: First Derry that the little one was baptised in would this have meant that they attended this church ?? As it was their parish?? Thank you Michelle 

bose_mish@live.com

Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church after which she would usually attend her husband’s. So on the face of it, Jane was Church of Ireland (Anglican) and they married in St Columb’s Cathedral which is the main church for the city. The note saying Jane was “of All Saints” suggests that she normally attended that church (also Church of Ireland) but for some reason had decided to marry in St Columb’s. All Saints is still a functioning church:

https://allsaintsclooney.co.uk

All Saints is on one side of the River Foyle (in the Waterside district) and St Columb’s on the other (in the city centre).

The baptism was in 1st Derry Presbyterian church so that suggests Samuel was Presbyterian and they were now attending his church. 1st Derry Presbyterian is still in use today:

http://discoverulsterscots.com/place/first-derry-presbyterian/

Being Presbyterian and living in Co Derry points to the Fisher family being of Scots origins. They would likely have settled in the area, from Scotland, in the 1600s.

 

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you both very much as it will now give me some more to go on. Regards Michelle

bose_mish@live.com

Thank you also Elwyn for the information inregards to origins of Scotland. How exciting that you know this. (I keep all this information in a folder that is now growing - thanks to you & Miriam. So hard in Australia & as stated Epic could not assit) SO much to be learnt by asking. Much appreciated Regards Michelle

bose_mish@live.com

Michelle,

Presbyterianism was established in Scotland in the mid 1500s by John Knox.  It arrived in Ireland in the early 1600s the Scots settlers.  No “native Irish” were Presbyterian before that. Some incomers to Ireland such as Huguenots refugees from France in the late 1600s adopted Presbyterianism (because it was very similar to their own Calvinist views) but in general if you find a Presbyterian living in Ireland, especially one with a Scottish surname and living in the counties of Ulster, then they are usually descended from Scottish ancestors.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Dear Michelle

I have found all this information but haven't added it to the family tree yet, which I am filling in on the Mormon free site "Family Search"

If you would like to see Samuel Fisher & Jane McBride's descendents in Sydney, they are on my family tree at : https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K83K-4N7

You will need to sign on and don't worry, you aren't hassled by the sponsors of this easy to use family history site.

Robert Woodley

Great/g/g/grandson of Jane McBride and Samuel Fisher

Robert Woodley

Dear Robert, Firstly I want to thank you ever so much for taking the time to contact me.

I am the Great/g/g/grand daughter Of Jane & Samuel.

I have taken the time to write to you on Family Search & once in a blue moon I go on there as I assisted a lady on there with another part of my Family.

I have put my email in there in the email I sent through there as I always find this easier.

I am speachless as James in the one man I could not find anything on. Trust me I am over the moon!!!!

As explained in the letter in Family search I have researched ever aspect I could with these but still didn't have all the answer. I do know a lot more now & quite sad some aspects.

There was no one who was researching my mum or dads side (which I find sad) I am thorough with my work. I was even in Ireland last year seeking answers to no avail.

Hoping to hear from you at some stage & I would love to know more about this family - If this is okay??

MY very best Regards Michelle

bose_mish@live.com

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