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Long Form Birth Certificate

DownClonallan (Down)

.My Grandfather fathered my Mother (Elizabeth "Betty" Carvill born 1921 Detroit MI) late in his life. My mother never registered her birth and unclear if my Grandfather registered her birth.

I am interested in Irish citizenship and was happy to see the expansion for application now includes grandparent.

I am supposed to submit a "long form" birth certificate.

I have located his birth, Peter Carvill, born 15 October 1875 to Owen Carvill and Catherine McAvoy/McIvoy/McEvoyin County Down Ireland

I have located his grandfather, Peter and grandmother Bridget thru Giffiths.

He had two older sisters, Rose (George Fitzsimons) and Bridget then him, then Patrick, Owen and Mary Catherine.

Rose is listed on Peter and Bridget's death certificates.

How do I go about achieving the long form birth certificate? Is the one I located already sufficient? Can I use a downloaded form?

Thank you for any assistance

Pat

IrelandXO member

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Pat:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

Follow this link and apply for a cert from the General Register Office  https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx ;  The  cost is twenty euros plus postage. You will need at least a baptismal record for your mother if the her birth was not recorded but the Consulate will let you know what they need.

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Adding to what Roger has explained, birth of a grandparent in Ireland does normally allow you to claim Irish citizenship but there are several steps to go through. Firstly, you will need certified copies of all the relevant birth and marriage certificates showing the link back to the person born in Ireland.

Secondly, if you are claiming through a father or mother who was not themselves born in Ireland, you need to apply to get their birth registered as an Irish Foreign birth. That takes about 6 months and costs €278. Once you obtain that document from Dublin, you can then apply for your Irish passport. (Not before). There’s a 3-month delay for new applicants and a face to face interview is also involved. So you have to go to an Irish Embassy or Consulate. The passport itself costs €80 but there can be reductions for those over 65. So allowing for the time to get all the certificates together and the other delays, it takes about a year, and will probably cost around €358.

Suggest you check the Irish Embassy website for fuller details.

Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘IrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you so much, Roger and Elwyn

Lots of hoops to jump through

Hoping I won't encounter any issues - my Grandfather is listed as Peter Carvill in Ireland and Walter Peter Carville in MI,USA

Additionally, he constantlychanged his date of birth and his place of birth (LA and SC in USA). Thinking changed DOB and place of birth to get work

Praying for the best

Really apprpeciate the assistance

You guys are the greatest

Pat

IrelandXO member

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