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Lilly family that immmigated to St. Helens area of England- in coal industry.

i have a John, Denis and Micheal Lilly, all related some how on church and marriage state and local records in England in the 1850s and 1860s in St. Helens area of England. All the census etc state that they are from Ireland.

I have a Denis Lilly (born 1817 Ireland, died 1861, England).My GGGrandfather, John Lilly (born 1821 Ireland, died 1871 England). And a related Sarah Lilly and a Michael Lilly, either siblings or cousins... alll emigrated after 1840 to St. Helens area of England ( for coal mining jobs). I've been researching for 25 years and have not found the connection to Ireland yet. John Lilly married a Margart Neville (from Kilbeggan Westmeath) But I don't see any evidence that he was born there or from there. They were married in England, which meant that they probably met there... I have researched all the title, familyseach, ancestry etc databases for years. I have all the England census copies of many of their birth, death and marriage certificates. But not one place that states the town, or even county that they are from. Any other thoughts?

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Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out and apologies for the long delay in getting back to you.

I hope someone with a connection to the family will be in touch. In the meantime, I wanted to invite you to add your ancestor's details to our XO Chronicles. You can learn more about it HERE and it might be another avenue to consider so that your ancestor's details can be seen by others. 

​It might be a good idea too, to keep an eye on the Early Birth and Marriage Index. It is updated regularly and if your ancestor doesn't appear now, they may in the future. ​

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support 

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An update to this post,   I recently found out that my Lilly ancestors from St. Helens probably moved there from Ireland to work in the Chemical Works factories that were being run by the Josias Gamble family,  who originated in Enniskillen, Fermanagh, Ireland.    Ive been working on this connection from Ireland -> St. Helens Lancashire for many years, wondering why my ancestors moved from Ireland to this town instead of immigrating to the America directly.  They eventually went to the US, in 1887,  but lived in St. Helens working at these companies till the companies either shut down (they were demeened responsible for alot of the pollution in the town and waters) or America just gave them more promise at a brighter future .   On their death certificates and in the census records it is this occupation that they listed.      Given that connection,  I am hoping that it is this area in Northern Ireland (Enniskillen,  Fermanagh),  that also has alot of listings for the Lilly surname is their place of origin.

 

 

 

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Hi there, So after a long chat with my dad {Kevin Lilly from Fermanagh in Ireland} last night I decided I really want to find out more about his ancestry. This was the 1st thread I found so thought I may as well reply! Have you had any luck  tracing any Lilly's? 
Sharon Lilly
 

 

 

 

 

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