I am researching John FORDE born 1844, Annaghdown, Ireland. He married Margaret Theresa COLLINS. They moved to New Zealand and had 8 children. John's parents are Michael FORDE and Catherine (surname unknown). This is all the information I have for Ireland and am wanting to find any information on the family. I do not know if John had siblings, when left Ireland etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You
Angela:
Roots Ireland www.rootsireland.ie has an 1844 baptism for a John Ford(e) with a father named Michael and a mother named Catherine in the Annaghdown RC records. Roots is a pay site to view the transcription of the church record. Annaghdown RC records start in 1834 so you may find siblings.
Below is a link to the 1856 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Annaghdown civil parish There were a number of Fords and I believe 5 Michaels. Not sure which is the father of John. Maybe the baptismal record will show the townland.
Roger McDonnell
Dear John
My mother"s family are Fordes from Annagdown. My great great grandfather was Martin Forde. He married Margaret Hardiman, One of their children was Peter Forde , born 1843 (my great grandfather) who married Bridget Higgins on 16 Nov 1862 in the parish of Anngahdown. Bridget was from Drumgriffin townland. They left Ireland on the "New Great Britian" in late 1862 for New Zealand. Timonthy Higgind, Bridget's brother, came with them. They landed in Bluff, Southland and established the Forde family there.
There are two Forde families in Southland, NZ - both from Anaghdown. I think your John Forde is the other famil that settled out Winton way. I will email my cousins whose mother , Mary Forde, belongs to this line. She married my uncle, Leo Forde , grandson of Peter Forde. They had to prove to the Church that both families were two entirley different lines before they could get married.
Peter and Bridget went on to to have 7 children, one of whom is my grandfather, Peter Ford ( he dropped the e from the surname when he worked for NZ Railways).
Peter and Bridget had other relatives who left Galway on same day. They were all to meet at the whard and travel together to NZ. However, the other relatives arrived at a different time and boarded a ship to the US in error as they could not read!
Do you have any other information about your John Forde that could help me find his relatives here in NZ
Kind Regards
Maria McEntyre
MICHAEL (SHAUN) AND CATHERINE (KIT) (NEE FORDE) OFLISHEENANORAN - message to AM Dunnage. In the intervening years you will have probably progressed your research. If not I have fairly full details about this family and their many descendants. Michael (Shaun) and Catherine (Kit) (nee Forde) married at Annaghdown on 25 Feb 1843 and had had ten known children 1844-1863. At least seven of these children came to Southland, New Zealand. My direct line is second-born G-GM Julia/Judith Forde who married Thomas Crowe.Cheers, Trish Ward, Invercargill, New Zealand.
Hi Trish,
I know it is a long shot that you are still on here but I am very interested in any information you may have to help me with my research. All I have discovered is that Michael and Catherine had 2 children John who married Margaret Collins and Julia/Judith who married Thomas Crowe. I only have information on Johnn and no other family members.
It will be easier to share information directly. Do you have a personal email address?
Hi amdunnage
My uncle Leo married a Mary Theresa Forde, from Winton, Southland, NZ. Their eldest child sent me yhis information today in the hope of helping you with your search:
My Great Great Grandfather was Michael Forde but he married a widow Mary Murphy nee Burke ; they had 5 Children .James and my G Grandfather John emigrated in 1865 to NZ. Our John married Bridget Hynes. I have found some information on John that you are asking after will send it even though family may have it
She also sent the attached photo of John's death notice.
She will send further information soon.
I hope this helpful
Kind regards
Maria McEntyre
Hi Forde researchers.
As you will have all discovered, there are many many Ford(e)s of County Galway, and of Annaghdown, and of course the names repeat across and down the generations, and lineage is further complicated with Ford(e)s marrying Ford(e)s. It is quite a mission to clarify what Forde line we are each exploring, and establishing the townland is therefore very important.
The John Forde that AM Dunnage is researching (opening post, above) appears to be the son of Michael and Catherine (nee Forde) Forde of Lisheenanoran. Michael's wife Catherine is understood (DNA matches) to have been the daughter of Michael and Mary (formerly Murphy, nee Burke) Forde of Annagh West, the Forde family that Maria outlines above. Sooo...the John referred to in Maria's post above is NOT the John Forde queried about in the original AM Dunnage query, although they each have the same G-G GF (Michael Forde 1700s).
Maria's John Ford/e is John Burke Ford/e, understood from Annaghdown baptismal records to be the 5th of ten children to Michael and Mary (Murphy, nee Burke) Forde of Annagh West. As Maria says, John Burke Forde and his brother James Burke Forde (my G-GF) came to Southland (James Burke Forde in 1863). Five children of this family appear to have died in childhood/in the Great Hunger, and three remained living in Annagh West.Today there are still Fordes on the home farm, Park House, built 1838 at Annagh West.
Returning now to AM Dunnage's John Forde, son of Michael and Catherine (nee Forde) Forde of Lisheenanoran, along with Julia (Mrs Thomas Crowe), there were seven other known siblings. Patrick and Bridget remained in Ireland. Patrick married Honor Devany, lived in Annagh,. Bridget married Thomas Forde of Balrobuckbeg (son of Dermot(Darby) and Mary (Kelly) Forde. James, Michael, Cecilia, Mary.and Norah came to Southland.
Always keen to learn more so appreciate the connection with other Forde researchers. Thanks for posting,
Hi all Thamk You so very much for the help you are giving me. I would be grateful for anything else. I am not sure if allowed to put email address on here but am more than happy to get messages from you. Feel free to contact me at the_dunnages@hotmail.com
Thank You again
Ange Dunnage
I too am absolutely confused with this family as I have many DNA matches on the NZ end. "AM Dunnage's John Forde, son of Michael and Catherine (nee Forde) Forde of Lisheenanoran" - is Catherine by any chance Catherine Linnane? And is this the same John Forde who married Margaret Theresa Collins? Does anyone know her parentage as well.
"Maria's John Ford/e is John Burke Ford/e, understood from Annaghdown baptismal records to be the 5th of ten children to Michael and Mary (Murphy, nee Burke) Forde of Annagh West". These I have in my tree. Are these two families related and if so through whom? Forde or Collins?
My problem is that I have DNA matches that go through BOTH these lines - and I cannot see where they link close enough to produce the cM's that I am getting. ie around 40cM.
To confuse this issue on my direct line my 3GG is Francis Cavanagh and Cesily Forde from Annaghdown through their son William (1835) who married Mary Collins (of Michael Collins and Bridget Flaherty - Drumgriffin). William and Mary emigrated to New Zealand then married there (Roslyn Bush Invercargill).
I would dearly LOVE to resolve this.
Julianne Vincent Anderson
julianne.vincent@gmail.com
Hi. Are the parents of Patrick Forde(married to honor Forde) Michael and Mary or Michael and Catherine. I had thought Michael and Mary but now I think I may be wrong. I think Patrick and honor stayed in Annaghwest and were the parents of James Forde who married delia Cosgrave but I may be totally wrong