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Jeremiah Clifford/Johanna Reidy... Tralee

Kerry

Hi,

I am curious why I cannot locate either a birth record for Jeremiah Clifford (do not know his parent's names) nor a marriage record for him and Johanna Reidy, abt. 1858. Their first son, Cornelius was born in 1859, and they had 8 additional children. I have the birth records of the children. Neither the RootsIreland site, which says the records should be there for that date, nor the Church Records site from Irishgenealogy.ie show their marriage record. Any information on this matter would be greatly appreciated,

Carolyn

P.S. I do have two potential sets of parents for Jeremiah with births in 1837 which makes sense, but I have no idea of which one is correct, and I do not want to guess. One is in Killeentierna and the other in Killarney. Any opinion on this matter would be great too!

carolyntoohey@…

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One additional fact that adds more confusion to my records....their first son, Cornelius was born in 1859, and son number two, Jeremiah in 1866. The remaining 6 children were all born 1 or 2 years apart. 

I don't know if that is relevant information...but the birth records show that information.

carolyntoohey@…

Carolyn:

Can you tell me what parish you located the baptismal records. The only record I located was for Elizabeth Clifford May 18 1870. The parish was Ballymacelligot. Ballymacelligot parish has records starting 1868 which explains not finding any other records. Let me know.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Roger,

I haven't found any record for the eldest son, Cornelius born 1859; but he definitely is a sibling.He came to the US with a number of his siblings.  Jermiah's (1866) record says Tralee, Mary's (1868) says Tralee East, Johanna's (1872) says Tralee (No 1), and the remaining siblings Elizabeth (1870), Margaret (1874), Thomas (1877), and Bridget (1878) all show Ballymacelligot as the baptismal place. These are from the Select Births and Baptism records. There is also an Eleanor (Nellie), 1867 that I cannot locate a record for.

 

Thanks,

Carolyn

carolyntoohey@…

Carolyn:

I looked at the 1866 civil birth record for Jeremiah. The family was living in Shanaknock townland in O'Brennan civil parish. The RC parish would be Ballymacelligot. So there would be no baptismal records or marriage records before 1868.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you Roger! That answers my questions, and I''ll give up my quest of searching for their marriage record and the birth record for their eldest son!

 

Carolyn

carolyntoohey@…

 

 

Hi Carolyn,

I'm researching CLIFFORDs and I was just looking at that marriage a few minutes ago.

I wonder if it's possible that it's NOT Johanna REIDY but Johanna LEARY?

 

DETAILS...

Jeremiah CLIFFORD

5 May 1873

Tinter’s Lane???

TRALEE

Jeremiah CLIFFORD 

Johanna LEARY

Have you got them on any census or passenger list?

Tony

 

tonyspendel@gm…

 

Hi Tony,

Thanks for reaching out, but her surname is Reidy as eight of their nine children have records with Clifford- Reidy as their parents.

Carolyn

 

carolyntoohey@…

Ok.

Would you please send me a link to where they appear on the census.

Good luck on your search.

Tony

 

 

 

tonyspendel@gm…

 

Hi Tony, 

I'm away from my computer and cannot send a link using this iPhone. But here is their information from the 1901 census in the National Archives.

House # 1 Shananock (O'Brennan, Kerry)

Mary   32   Daughter 

Thomas 1 grandson 

Con 2 grandson

Pat 4 grandson

Jeremiah 72 head of household 

Jeremiah 35 son         
Johanna 62 wife

Their other six children had emigrated to the US by this time.

Carolyn

 

carolyntoohey@…

Ok. 
thank you

 

tonyspendel@gm…

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