James Harton b.abt.1812 in Ireland d.1888 in Canada

Hi Don,

I couldn't find James on www.rootsireland.ie/ but here is one of two Monaghan Hartons (+ surname variants) baptisms; the other is 1841

Name:Eloner HartinDate of Birth:16-Jun-1799
Date of Baptism:
Address:CorraghParish/District:DONAGH (St. Salvators)Gender:
CountyCo. Monaghan
Denomination:Church Of Ireland
Father:Edward HartinMother:Ann Hartin

Here's an early marriage (next is 1837 & R C)

Date of Marriage:12-Nov-1784
Parish / District:Cahans Presbyterian Church, parish of Tullycorbet
County:Co. Monaghan
Husband :JohnMcCabe Address:Member Of Cahans Congrgation and Meeting House

Wife: RachelHarton Member Of Cahans Congrgation and Meeting House

Notes:

Marriage entry found among baptisms listed in Thomas Bell's
transcripts of the originals circa 1930-31. Married by Rev. John
Rogers, after being regularly proclaimed.

No burial records on roots

 

Statutory marriage registration began in Ireland in April 1845, save for RC marriages which started in 1864. I searched the on-line records for April 1845 to 1850 for a marriage between James Harton & Margaret Lyster. I didn’t find one for them suggesting either they married before April 1845 or they married in Canada. However I did see a couple of Lyster marriages in Co. Monaghan. They were the only 2 Lyster marriages in Ireland at that time, so it looks like a name mostly found in Monaghan. So you may be on the right track looking at this county. Both were Presbyterian (so probably Scottish ancestry). One was at Cahans Presbyterian church in Tullycorbet parish. The other was at Ballyalbany Presbyterian in the parish of Tedavnet.  Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church, after which she’d switch to her husband’s.  So you might find Margaret Lyster’s baptism in those records, or in some other Presbyterian records in the county.

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

Tullycorbet’s records go back to 1796 (with some gaps). Ballyalbany’s start in 1802. Neither set is on-line so far as I am aware. However there are copies of both in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. A personal visit is required to view them.

There were evidently several Margaret Lysters in Monaghan in the 1840s so you ought to try and find yours parents names from her death certificate to be sure of finding the right family.

I searched  for Harton marriages in Monaghan in the same period. I found one at Clones Register Office (so possibly a mixed marriage).  The groom was a Harton and lived in Cormoy townland in Aghabog parish. Gone by the 1901 census. And there were no Hartons living anywhere in the county by 1901. Not a very common name in Ireland at all. The vast majority were Roman Catholic, though evidently your family were probably not if they were Orangemen!

I don’t know much about Orange Lodge records. I have seen a few local lodge records in PRONI in Belfast and the information on them was pretty sparse. Mostly about subscriptions and minor financial matters. Lots of loose bits of paper and plenty of gaps. However you could contact the Orange Lodge HQ in Belfast and ask them for advice:

http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/index.aspx