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James Farrell Family - Porterstown

Hello, Per Ancestry DNA, my DNA falls between Central Ireland (North Leinster & East Connacht) and Munster Ireland (North Munster and West Clare). I understand per Ancestry Progenealogist that my Farrell decendents were from Porterstown, County Meath.

I am researching my Farrell ancestors of Porterstown. The information I have is my 3rd gr uncle, Rev. James Farrell (abt 1736-June 5, 1819 Parish: Dunboyne, Meath), my 3rd gr grandfather, James Farrell (?-1850) married to Mary (possible) (?-Oct 1830), who had 8 children, no DOB's for any of the children. Edward (abt 1830- ? maybe in USA), my 2nd gr grandfather Christopher (abt 1830-1888 in Buffalo, NY, USA) , Patrick (abt 1830-? maybe in USA), John (abt 1830-June 26, 1914 in Porterstown, Meath, Ireland) (abt 1830 for all birthdates), 1 unnamed son and 3 unnamed daughters. Someone contacted me via Ancestry and provided me with a picture of a Farrell tombstone found in Kilclone Cemetery. Written on tombstone: Erected by John Farrell in loving memory of his wife, Mary Farrell who died 26th of June 1901 age 71 also his mother Mary Farrell wife of James Farrell who died 23rd of October 1830 age 50. Edward Farrell's son John H Farrell (1857 USA - ?) returned to Ireland in July 2, 1883 and married Frances Larkin in RC Chapel of St Savior, Dominick St, Dublin on July 22, 1885. If you might provide me with any additional information, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much, Christine Kraffert Henderson, NV formerly of Buffalo NY.

Christine

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Thank you Roger for this information.   You have provided me with additional data, John H Farrell's death date.     When I use these websites, what would you advise using for the Diocese, Parish or Location when looking these records?     Porterstown is shown as Electoral Division of Rodanstown, in Civil Parish of Moyglare, in the Barony of Upper Deece, in the County of Meath.   I am confused as to the location needed for the best search.       Would you have any suggestions as to finding the birth dates and names of the Farrell children.      I did try the earlier census' but no luck.

Thanks again,

Chris Kraffert  

 

 

Christine

Chris:

If you are searching for civil records on www.irishgenealogy.ie use Dunshauglin as the registration district. 

Can you clarify which Farrell children are your searching. The ones born around 1830 or the children of Edward and Frances. If it was the older family, I have a question. If Mary Farrell died in October 1830 at age 50, how can her children be born around 1830?

Roger

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Good afternoon Roger,       I apologize for the delayed response.    My computer had to go in for repairs and I have just gotten it back.

Thank you for the information regarding using Dunshauglin as the registration district.    

I did have Ancestry Pro-genealogists research my Farrell family in Ireland.    After a costly session,  they provided information regarding my 3rd great grandfather, James Farrell who married Mary Unknown and they had 8 children residing in Porterstown.   Ancestry provide me with my relatives names of Edward, Patrick, John, a unknown son and 3 unknown daughters. No birth dates were discovered and why 1830 was chosen, I do not know.  The birth order is a mystery and 4 unnamed children.     Ancestry did tell me Baptismal records were not located for the children due to the time period and that many parish records did not survive for that period.   Not sure what parish Church they reviewed.     

Christopher, my 2nd great grandfather,  settled in Buffalo, New York.   Christopher's death certificate only provides his date of death Feb 6, 1888, he was 56 years old and was born in Ireland.    The data involving Mary Farrell wife of James Farrell dying in October 1830 was taken from a picture of the Farrell tombstone in Kilclone Cemetery given to me by a Larkin descendent of John H Farrell and Frances Larkin.  He happened to contact me via Ancestry.com and gave me information regarding the children of John Farrell and Frances Larkin (Mary Josephine Farrell Smyth 1886-1957, Edward Joseph Farrell 1888-?, Gretta Farrell 1890-1976 and Bridget Farrell 1893-1975).    He has visited Ireland 2-3 times.   I have tried to locate Kilclone Cemetery in Ireland  and seems it is not found, are you familiar with this cemetery name or location?  

I remember my grandmother, Mary Margaret Farrell Peterson, telling me that her family came from County Cork.    When the family came to the US they dropped the O' from Farrell to make it more Americanized.   Should I be looking for O'Farrell's?       Any insight would be appreciated.    

Thanks again,   Chris

 

Christine

Chris:

Kilclone or Kilcloon cemetery is in southern Co. Meath. Someone in the past transcribed some of the headstones in that cemetery. See records 28 and 30. The James Farrell who was a priest apparently died in 1819  http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/photos/tombstones/1headstones/kilclone-old.txt  I'm wondering if that was a typo and it should have been 1891 or another year. You will note that Fr. Farrell was the parish priest of Kilclune and Mayglare.  Booterstown was actually to the northeast of that area but I'm wondering if the children were baptized in Kilclune because of Fr. Farrell. Here is the key point, the records for Kilclune RC parish start in 1836 which possibly explains why you or others can't find baptismal records because likely the children were born pre-1836??

I would not worry about Farrell versus O'Farrell. All search routines for the various data bases will search borth surnames.

I do not want to disagree with your grandmother but I doubt the family came from Cork but they may have taken the ship from Queenstown Co. Cork.

Roger

 

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Roger,    

Again, I appreciate your information.  It is very interesting to discover that the family may have traveled from Queenstown, County Cork but lived in County Meath.   You have given me valuable information.  

In Ancestry, for Rev. James Farrall, the Parish is shown as Dunboyne,  County of Meath, death date June 5, 1819.   Farrell is misspelled.  

I am confused by your sentence - 'Booterstown was actually to the northeast of that area'.    Did you mean Porterstown?                                                                                                                            

Also, are the Parish names Kilclone, Kilcloon, Kilclune used interchangeably or are these different city/county names?  

I will continue to search the early records to see what I can discover.  

Have a good day,     Chris

Christine

Christine:

Sorry! I was working on another message that dealt with Booterstown Co. Dublin. Kilclune, Kilclone, Kilcloon are all the same place.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Roger,   Can I continue to reach out to you for assistance?   Should I join a Parish Group on Ireland Reach Out?  

I do find a Parish Kilclone (Meath) group but not one for Porterstown.    What do you suggest please?     

Christine

Christine:

There are actually three Porterstown townlands in Co. Meath but the one you want would be in the civil pariah of Rathbeggan.

Roger

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

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