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James Cosgrave and James Mulvany from Carrickadhurish near Longford

On 16th July 1839 James Cosgrave and his uncle, James Mulvany, were tried at the Longford Assizes and convicted of the murder of their grandfather and father, James Mulvany. James Mulvany was executed within two weeks. James Cosgrave, who was only 14 at the time, was transported for life to Norfolk Island.

James Cosgrave partnered with my gg grandmother, an Irish orphan called Margaret Sullivan from Kenmare Workhouse. They were together for 45 years before James Cosgrove (as spelt in Australia) died in 1904. My great grandmother was born around 1859 but no registration of her birth has yet been found. Therefore I don't know for sure if James Cosgrove is my gg grandfather. I would like to know if there are any surviving Cosgrave or Mulvany relatives in Ireland, and if they have had a DNA test. I need to compare my DNA with them without the influence of descendants from my gg grandmother.

However, if DNA sharing is not possible for whatever reason, I would just like to know of any descendants of James in Ireland. His father was supposedly John Cosgrave and his mother Eileen Cosgrave, nee Mulvany (from Ancestry public tree so not sure about this). These spellings were used in the newspaper court report, and James' convict record also used the spelling Cosgrave.

I have tried looking at churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie but am not having much success as apparently Carrickadhurish is no longer a parish name?

Many thanks,

Noni

mCoop_er

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Regarding the location - could that reference be Carrickadorrish, which is a townland in Columbkille civil parish near Granard Co. Longford ?

See the entry on the placename database : Carrickadorrish

Placenames were often recorded with a variety of different spellings, in this case it's an Anglicization of the old Irish name for the townland i.e. 'Carraig an Dorais'. Similar spelling variation occurs in records for surnames..

The corresponding Catholic parish would also have been Columbkille or in full 'union or district of Columbkill', the registers unfortunately only cover back to 1845, these are available on the National Library of Ireland website

The Catholic parish for the area around Kenmare Co. Kerry is sometimes referred to as 'Templenoe' - see the NLI registers at this link, the same records are indexed on the IrishGenealogy website

(the IrishGenealogy website does not cover church records for Co. Longford)

shanew147IrelandXO Volunteer

Hi,

This does not help with a DNA connection but an interesting story about Margaret. She was born a Sullivan but the family went by the surname Cooper because there were so many Sullivans in the area. I assume her father was a cooper or barrel maker. If you are on Ancestry it looks like someone with a tree has taken a DNA test. Have you checked out Ancestry DNA Thruline sometimes they show DNA connections.

Margaret Sullivan's Story - www.mykerryancestors.com

James Mulvany was 25 at the time of his death in 1839.

Irish executions 1835 - 1899

Regard- Mary

Regards- Mary

mtvrdk@gmail.com

Margaret's baptism record is on Irishgenealogy- Church Records

Baptism record for MARGARET SULLIVAN on 15 July 1829

Area - KERRY (RC), Parish/Church/Congregation - KILGARVAN« Back to results

Name:Margaret Sullivan
Address:Keelbunau
Father:Cornelius Sullivan
Mother:Mary Sullivan
Further details in the record
Child Denomination:RC
Sponsor 1:Daniel Sullivan
Sponsor 2:Honora Sullivan
Priest:Nr
About the record
Book Number:
Page:
Entry Number:41
Record Identifier:KY-RC-BA-285604

Regards- Mary

mtvrdk@gmail.com

Noni:

See first record at the link for marriage of a Francis Mulvany of Carrickadorrish to a Bridget Flynn in 1872 https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11308/8149409.pdf

Francis was a son of John who is listed in the Griffiths Valuation. John died in 1880. Francis and Bridget had at least seven children.

By 1901, Bridget had died and also a child Bridget had died in 1883 fourth record https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06352/4822211.pdf

1901 censushttps://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Longford/Sonnagh/Carrickadorrish/1549171/

1911 census https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Longford/Sonnagh/Carrickadoorish/582922/

1923 death record for Francis last record https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1923/05053/4384022.pdf

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Thankyou so much to everyone who has replied with information. It is all very helpful with many links to follow (which I have been toiling away at). It's also really good to get the place names sorted!

Noni Rush

mCoop_er

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