Ireland XO
Back to Message Board

Hurley

Cork

My GGGrandfather Daniel Hurley joined the Irish Constabulary in Cork . His record #3160 gave his age as 20, religion Catholic, Native Place Cork, Recommendation John Barton, Occupation Labourer. On 5 November 1838 Allocation Limerick.  He remained in Limerick the rest of his life.

He was married in Sts. Peter & St. Paul Kilmallock on 12 October 1847 to  Catherine Melvin and the first born child , Daniel David was baptised in the same church on 13 November 1849.  The other children were baptised in other parishes where he was stationed. My Grandfather was born in Kilmallock in 1867.

On 16 December 1865 he was pensioned out of the force.  The National Archives Kew PMG 48/32 records age when pensioned as 49yrs.

The 1901 Limerick Census has age 86 born Limerick. He died on 24 November 1903 in Limerick and my Grandfather recorded age as 92. I now have a range between 1811-1818 .

My question is : was he born in Cork or in Limerick and went over the border to enlist in Cork so he would be allocated back to Limerick as policemen could not serve in their home county.  There were Hurleys around Kilmallock as recorded in The Tithe Applotment books and Griffiths Valuation.

 

 

 

amw1939@gmail.com

3 replies

Hi Annie, such a simple question and such a tricky answer. The rule was as you state so we must assume he was born in Cork, however a check on the free Irish Genealogy site which has a lot of Cork church records there shows over 240 Daniel Hurleys born from 1810 to 1820, so no shortage. (Wonder why so many Daniels)

I would be inclined to look a the more rare surname Barton as the proposer who would have wrote the letter, you saw a labourer but I assume this is the Hurley man. Barton is a more unusual name. There are 6 Cork Bartons in the Tithes and while 4 entries in Limerick it appears to me to be only 2 people, there are 3 Thomas Bartons.

I would recommend you join a Facebook group if you are there, a main contributor is Jim Herlihy who wrote the history of the RIC, the name of the group is Royal Irish Constabulary1816-1922 -A forgotten Irish Police Force apply to join and it is very well moderated.

The letter was usually written by a local landlord or person of status so if you can glean any more about it you could at least find an area of Cork.

A long winded way of saying I don't know Annie.

Good Luck

Pat

 

 

St Peters LouthIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you Pat.  Yes I had looked at all the Daniel Hurleys in Cork and it is a very long list. Even today that name Daniel is past down generations...my only hope is for someone researching Hurley has a relative of there's whose brother joined the Irish Constabulary.  Had previously investigated the Irish Constabulary records at Dublin Castle where the museum is located and all they had was the details I mentioned . I even search the records held at the National Archives Kew where I found his age as 49 on discharge.

Have looked at John Barton too.  There was a John Barton who died in Dublin at an old age and was registered as Esq. Was he in Cork at that time I have no idea.

Annie

 

 

 

 

amw1939@gmail.com

Hi Annie, it struck me that if the Barton man was writing letters of recommendation he wrote more than one so there may be others and the FB page with the same referee. Also you could ask the local history section of Cork library, I find libraries can be an untapped source and if this man is well known there may be records there.

Regards

Pat

St Peters LouthIrelandXO Volunteer

Reply

Reply
One image file up to 2 MB.