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Hugh Herbert (1805) and Julia O'Hara a family mystery

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My husband's 3G grandparents, Hugh Herbert and Julia O'Hara, are a family mystery.  According to records we have found, Hugh was in the 94th Foot Regiment, and from those records he was born in 1805.  He and Julia married (after a dispensation) in Mount Temple, I think 1846.  It appears that Hugh spent @20 years in the military as a private.  His sons Patrick and Michael emigrated to the US 1870 with their families (Patrick Herbert is my husband's 2G grandfather).  The mystery is that family lore on all branches of the Herbert tree (and as far away as Australia and the US) has the same story:  that Hugh Herbert was "Lord Herbert" and that his son (Patrick) was disowned for marrying a Catholic maid in thier summer home, but his father gave him money to take his family to the US. We have been searching for many years to find Hugh Herbert's parents/family without luck.  The military records don't seem to support that Hugh was a "Lord" (he was a private).  Yet, Patrick was able to purchase a significant home only 3 years after he arrived in the US.

Would love ANY help in finding out who Hugh Herbert's parents/family were or anything about Hugh and Julia O'Hara.

Many thanks!

chris.delano35…

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Hi Chris, I did look at the Ancestry family tree. Also looked up on Family Search. ( free web site) You indicated that Hugh and Julia were possibly married in 1846. That can not be true. I have seen 1828.  This makes sense because their sons were born in 1830 (Patrick) and 1831 (Michael)  If Hugh was born in 1805 in Westmeath it would be Killmanahan. I did find two records of the marriage of Hugh Herbert and Eliza (Elizabeth) Ferris on May 2, 1805 in Killentierna, County Kerry. The first one was on the Irishgenealogy.ie. It stated that the record was in the parish record, Pg 40, record : KY-RC_MA 60507. (Roman Catholic)  The next one was at the web site NLI (National Library of Ireland) There was a written record that indicated the date, but no listing of the witness or parish priest. 

I can e mail you a copy of it. Just need your e mail.

Bob (alohadarlingohana@gmail.com)

San Francisco

 

chico2922

Hi Bob, I can't believe that I have not seen your reply to me til now.  Thank you so much, sorry it has taken me so long to say it.  I had the wrong date.  I believe they were married in 1821 in Mount Temple.  Interesting about your info about Hugh Herbert and Elizabeth Ferris in Kerry. We may be travelling to Ireland in 2026 and we would like to visit the area.  Wondering what  church that they would have been married in Mount Temple in 1821

chris.delano35…

Hi Chris,,

 That is OK. I used to volunteer and  try and answer some message inquiries by people like you. So I did some further research on Family Search (free web site) on Hugh Herbert and 

Julia O'Hara. Hugh was born in 1805 in Ireland. Julia was born in 1807 in Ireland. They were married in 1828, Mount Temple, County Westmeath.( near Athlone and 70 miles west of Dublin.) Their son Patrick was born 7 March, 1830 in County Westmeath.  He died on 23 August in Fall River, Bristol, MA. His wife was Ann Houlihan, born 1824, Ireland. She died on 30 November, 1889, Fall river, Bristo, MA.They were married apox 1846 in Ireland. 

They had five children, Joseph 1848, Margaret, 1850, Catherine, 1854, Maria ,1856, Annie, 1860..Is our husband related to any of them? I do not know your husbands name and family tree. 

Bob

chico2922

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