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Help needed tracing my Fields ancestors

Hi all,

Im looking for information from anyone who may be a decendent or connected in some way to John & Grace Fields who lived in Rossgier Clonleigh Raphoe North Donegal 1851, John & Grace married in 1847, Their Children were Patrick 2, Catherine 6 months.

The old age pension record's in Belfast taken from the 1851 census shows John & Grace Fields living in Rossgeir Clonleigh Raphoe North Co Donegal

John & Grace Fields were my Granny Leila Fields Great Grandparents

Patrick Fields had a Son called Johnny this was my Granny Leila Fields Father.

Johnny fields married mary catherine (cassie) houston from strabane Co Tyrone

Johnny & Cassie fields had ten children:
Joe, John, Paddy, Larry, William, Grace, Eileen, Annie may, Kathleen and my Granny Leila.

Leila Field's married my Grandfather Eddie Crawford & raised their family in Lifford Co Donegal.

Some of my Granny Leila's Brothers & Sisters emigrated to Liverpool & Some settled & raised their families within Counties Tyrone & Derry / Londonderry.

Here are some links below which may be of help to anyone trying to tie in their Fields ancestry with mine:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/feedback/1901/Donegal/Clonleigh_South/Lifford/1196070/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Clonleigh_South/Lifford_Town/505899/

FIELDS, David was born ABT 1901 in Co Donegal, (son of Bridget Floud) was in the 1911 census for Lifford Town, Clonleigh South, County Donegal, Ireland 1406819 Check the source file (free) and then check Archives for David FIELDS.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Clonleigh_South/Lifford_Town/505851/

I'm looking to find out where John Fields married to Grace came from & who his parents were ?

Im also looking to find out what ever happened to John & Grace's Daughter Catherine, Did she marry, raise a family, Where did she live ?

Although John & Grace were recorded as being of Catholic faith, That may not have always been the case as it was not uncommon in those days for the Husband to change his religion to that of his wife's and Visa versa and bring their family up within this new faith

Any help anyone can give me would be really appreciated.

Best wishes,

Patrick Crawford.

paddy.crawford…

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Dear Paddy

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out and apologies for the delay in getting back to you.

John Fields and Grace (McLaughlin) married in the parish of Lifford on 15-Nov-1847. Unfortunately the marriage record does not include parents names for the couple. Witnesses to the marriage were Mary Anne Sheils and Barny Gurl (sic). Lifford would have been the home parish of the bride, but John may also have lived there too. 

The couple had the following children: Mary Anne baptised 11-Feb-1855, John baptised 22-Nov-1857, Sarah Jane baptised 22-Sep-1861, Edward baptised 02-Oct-1869 and James born 25-Sep-1869. James is the only child where a birth record rather than a baptism exists. The family lived in the townland of Rossgier at the time of James' birth and his father was a farmer. You can probalby see the digitised originals here: http://registers.nli.ie

There is no listing of the family in Griffith's Valuation. 

I hope someone researching the family name will be in touch but the above may add to your stock of information in the meantime.

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support 

 

IrelandXO member

That's amazing information Clare, I have alot of info on this family now, But I could never find any information on any of John & Grace Fields siblings, As they were all born before 1864 except for James, I Know from an 1851 census record found in Belfast it has a Son Patrick born ? 1849 & a Daughter born in ? 1851, As I was looking through this new info you sent me I noticed something odd, Edward was baptised 02-Oct-1869 and James was born 25-Sep-1869, Could this be a typing error when you were typing out this info for me ?, I tried looking through the micro films but I can't find these records you found.

This is fantastic to have this extra bit of information on this family, Thank you so much for taking time out to help me with my families research.
Talk soon, Best wishes,
Patrick.

paddy.crawford…

Hi Paddy

Sorry for the confusion - in my haste I didn't explain myself properly! You can find these baptism record transcripts on rootsireland.ie and some may also be available on registers.nli.ie in their digitised form.

According to RootsIreland there is only a birth record for James who was born on 25th September 1869 and baptised two days later.

Edward's baptism record (we have no birth record for him) states that he was baptised on 2nd October 1869. Usually babies were baptised quite soon after they were born as sometimes with the high mortality rate they were not expected to live.

So, this could mean that the boys were twins (ie. both born on 25th September) or that the transcription from Rootsireland was added incorrectly - search for the corresponding digitised baptism for Edward on registers.nli.ie to see what date they have recorded on the original  just to be sure. It's a pity we cannot do the same for James as it seems there is no baptism record for him, just his baptism date recorded on his birth record. (Human error is sometimes a factor with transcription sites - whomever was adding the details to their site may have added them incorrectly or it may have been difficult to read). Just to be extra sure you could order a research copy of the birth cert for James: https://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx   

Print out the birth form and fill it out to include the info from the record above. Next, tick the box that you want a copy only which costs around €4. You have to post the request to the GRO (address provided when you print the form). You can ask GRO to e-mail the copy back. Usually if you provide a credit card number you will have no issues. 

Another thing to consider is that there was a fine for late registrations - parents may have recorded a later date of birth to avoid a financial penalty. The boys are definitely the sons of John and Grace in any case. 

Hope this helps

Clare

Genealogy Support 

IrelandXO member

Hi Clare, I found some new infirmation on this John Field's I'm tracing, I have them saved as 4 image's, How do I upload images to this site for members attention to get their views on them ?

Thanks Patrick.

paddy.crawford…

Hi again Paddy

If you want to upload to a message just click the upload button underneath your message and you can add what you need that way

Best wishes

Clare

Genealogy Support 

IrelandXO member

Thanks a milion Clare for getting back to me so soon, I happened to find a heap of unanswered emails on my computer this evening, This one is from the 18/08/2016, appoligies for the long delay in my responce back to you, Thats good to know that we as members can upload images to this site, I must take a look through my notes & post up some images as promised to see if anyone can help me link another Fields family with mine here in County Donegal, Thank you for all the help you've given me to date & all the great work you do here on this site

Kind Regards,

Patrick.

paddy.crawford…

Dear Patrick:

Many thanks for your very kind remarks about the website and the assistance.

We have a great group of volunteers here and are always happy to help.

If you would like to create a profile for any one of your ancestors, that would be great.  You can do so through the XO Chronicles feature at the top of the page.  For ease of reference, the link is below:

https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy

 

If you have any difficulties with the above, please let me know.

Kind regards,

 

Jane.

jhalloranryan@…

Hi Paddy,

Just seen these messages and discovered that my great grandmother Mary Anne McGarrigle (Born Fields) was a sister of John Fields. I am trying to build as much information towards the family tree on my heritage but if you would like any information, I would happily help. Also my mother worked with a Leila Mc Colgan (born Mc Loughlin) just curious if she is a sister of yours?

 

Kind regards,

Jenny

jbrolly13@gmail.com

Hi Jen, just seeing your messages now, appoligies for the late reply, Yes thats correct Mary Anne was my John's sister, Leila is my cousin, her mother is my aunt, are you related to Andrew Brolly ?

paddy.crawford…

Hi Paddy,

Yes Andrew is my Brother. Daughter of Patrick and Bernadette Brolly.

jbrolly13@gmail.com

Very good, I was friends with Andrew on Facebook, but he has recently deleted his Facebook account

paddy.crawford…

Yes, he is like myself never bothers with social media! Did you have any look with finding information on Catherine, I have a picture that I found of John (Johnny) Fields. I also have his and Cassie Fields 1911 census. Just trying to gather as much information. Do you use any of these sites or just do it yourself?

jbrolly13@gmail.com

Is it his aunt Catherine you mean or his wife Cassie ?, I do all my own research, I use different resources & the information I find I share it amongst my family, is the picture you have of John Field's the one of him in his army uniform ?

paddy.crawford…

Hi Paddy, yes it is, talking about Catherine his aunt as I seen that you have been asking about her. That's brilliant, if I have any pictures etc. I'll message them to you on this.

jbrolly13@gmail.com

Hi Paddy, yes it is, talking about Catherine his aunt as I seen that you have been asking about her. That's brilliant, if I have any pictures etc. I'll message them to you on this.

jbrolly13@gmail.com
paddy.crawford…

Can anyone help me find the original document for the one I posted in the image above ?

paddy.crawford…

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