Great Great Grandparents-1820's Edward Hoban(1822-1871)Margaret Hoban(nee Manley1826-1904?)

Dear basuti

Can you include their names I don't see them!

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support 

Clare,

1-Edward Hoban & Margaret Hoban-Nelson road Ladywood Birmingham.(1850's)

2-George & Lisa Ann Hoban.- Holland road Birmingham(1890's)

3-Thomas & Edith Hoban.- Downside road Birmingham(1920's)

4-Thomas Alfred & Margaret Hoban.- Mildenhall road Birmingham(1950's)

5-Martin John & Maria Hoban. -Perry Park Crescent Birmingham.(1980's)

A little more than requested; the five generations to myself. I have all the details for most but not the birth place of the first in Ireland.

Martin. 

Dear Martin

I had a look on rootsireland.ie and the only Edward Hoban baptism I can see for the period is in Co. Kilkenny in 1816. While this is a little outside that provided by you, unless you are very sure of that year, I wouldn?t rule out an earlier or later year of birth. There would be no way to know for sure if this is your ancestor though. It is also a subscription site, so I am limited in what I can see. 

I couldn?t find any Edward Hoban and a Margaret marriage on that site. Did they marry in the UK, I wonder? And there is no mention at all of a place name on George's birth cert that might point you in the right direction?

Best wsishes

Clare 

Genealogy Support 

Dear Clare,

I did wonder about Margaret Manley, as I came across one in Liverpool with the right sort of birth date. So it is a possibility that they met in the Uk.The only problem is that that would make them quite old when having some of the children. The Baptism records for two of the earlier children MaryAnn who is also on the census both recorded in Birmingham, give Edward and Margaret as parents and ths same with another child, although all names are in Latin; as Catholics.

My great granddad looks to have been the last of their children in 1870, with MaryAnn being the first in 1850. Edward Hoban died in 1871 at around 49 years old and subsequently it looks as if he George Hoban (certainly) and his mother(possibly) were in the Workhouse in Winson Green 10 years later at the next census 1881.

Another set of Hobans were in the next street at the same time but I left them alone because I could not find an immediate link.

Thanks,

 

Martin.

Dear Clare,

Given that the children were born in Birmingham UK; perhaps they were married here, like you suggested?

Martin.

It could be the case Martin that they were born in the UK. It could be too, that they married in a parish and at a time that predates the parish records here in Ireland. Do you have access to ancestry.com or another site that you could search UK marriages on? (or familysearch.org is free)

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support

Dear Clare,

I do have access to the Ancestry site and I have searched endlessly. All the written records from the census do have them down as being born in Ireland. The first being 1851 and so one. When the first child marries it states Edward as her father. I have not found a record of any marriage in the UK. In fact, of the next generation of Hobans(my Dads') 4 are still alive and they were convinced that George; their Grandfather was born in Ireland, which I know to be incorrect. I am convinced that they came here between 1840-1850 which would tie in with mass migration from many areas of Europe. Also Margaret is sometimes written-Margrett in Ireland but I know that where there is a difference it is still my ancestor.

Neither of Edward or Margaret could read or write as on the birth certificate of George they have signed with an X.

Finally, I was unaware of my Grandfather's siblings until my parents passing and that they nearly all lived in Holland road Aston Cross with some returning after marriage and even George returning to live with his youngest Leonard Patrick until his death in 1940.

Are you an employee of this site or just a researcher, like myself of family history?

Regards,

 

Martin. 

 

Dear Clare,

Tried the above and it gave the same information ie Census putting them in birmingham in 1861, the 1851 gives Hoben and the couple who were in the North with the same name had children with different names, nothing about marriage either in the uk or ireland but both names on baptism records for three of the childern in birmingham.

Thanks for your input.

Martin.

Hi Martin

I am an employee of Ireland Reachng Out - the Heritage Resource Manager. If you happen to learn anything new please let us know.

Best wishes

Clare

Genealogy Support 

Hello

 

I'm a few years behind in this thread

 

I am equally looking for Edward Hoban bn approx 1824 westport 

 

I have information to date that may help 

 

Best wishes