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Foster & Tyrrell forebears

My gx3 grandfatherEdward Bunbury Foster was born in Carlow in 1791, the son of Luke Foster & Margaret Tyrrell who were married at St Bride in Dublin on 3 June 1785. I've been able to confirm that Luke Foster's parents were Joseph Foster & Susanna Lenon and I've been able to trace Susanna's line back further through her parents John Lenon & Elinor Bunbury and Elinor's Bunburys to Benjamin Bunbury of Killerig, born in 1642.

To date I've not been able to find any trace of the parents and/or birthplaces of Joseph Foster (Edward's paternal grandfather), born abt 1718, or Margaret Tyrrell (Edward's mother), born abt 1764. I'm pretty sure that Tyrrell is an Irish surname, but I'm not so sure about Foster.

I've searchedhttps://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecordsand have found an entry forMargrita Terrell, baptized at St Nicholas RC in Dublin in October 1750, with father Edwardi & mother Margitae,https://tinyurl.com/ycgnoq4u. Edward Bunbury Foster's sister was named Margaret but as I understand it, Irish naming patterns say that thefirst daughtershould be named after her paternal grandmother which in this case was Susanna. Edward's older brother was Joseph, probably named after his paternal grandfather, that is if Luke & Margaret followed the naming pattern recommendation. However, the one thing that makes this above record unlikely is that my Foster Family in Carlowwere protestants.

I'd be truly grateful if there's anyone out there who can shed some light on my query.

With kind regards,

Jenny Grant

Mittagong, NSW, Australia

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Dear JennyG:  

Thank you for your post to the Ireland Reaching Out message board and welcome to the site.  It might be a good option to create a profile for Edward Bunbury Foster on the XO Chronicles section of the website.  You can include what information you have, and the profiles are updated weekly and read by all of our members.  It may be that another researcher is also connected with this family and may be able to share further information with you.  

If you have any questions, please let me know at:  jhalloranryan@irelandxo.com.  Thank you for your interest in Ireland Reaching Out.  

Kind regards,  

Jane.

 

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Hello Jenny

I have being looking at your post and you are probably aware of the Turtle Bunbury of Carlow, genealogist and historian, his family are from Carlow since around the time you mention, he alos has a very good Facebook page called Wistorical on which he writes about history.

I attended a talk he gave in County Louth last year about a McClintock family into which the Bunbury's had married. As they obviously came this way it is worth noting that thre was av ery well know family in Louth, Collon and Dunleer called Foster, indeed John Foster was the last speaker of the Irish House of Parliment before we got our own. The family also speciliased in education and instituted teaching of young ladies, google Vere Foster. There is a bit about the family here http://www.collonhouse.com/history.html

There was a previous Bunbury query on this site about a convict Bunbury if you wish to search it, stuck with me as these names are generally of people with more wealth. Tyrell is an irish name also, there is a village in Westmeath named Tyrellspass. The Tyrell name is Anglo Norman dating in Ireland from 1170.

Here is a site about County Louth with lots of Foster hits and also some Bunbury, http://www.jbhall.freeservers.com/

At the end of the day Jenny all this shows is there are Fosters in Ireland along with Bunbury but if the families were landowners and wealthy (Foster lost it all when he overstretched his borrowings I think), were your Oz ancestors of some means it may be that they were from these families. 

The only hope of a marriage record is a church record but for the 1700s they are mainly church of Ireland and not all have survuved, it is mainly Church of Ireland records that were lost in 1922 in the Four Courts. You can check what records there are for C of I here https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers…;

Good Luck

Pat

St Peters LouthIrelandXO Volunteer

Thanks so much for your interest Pat .....  much appreciated.

I've actually been in touch with Turtle via email for many years now.  He's certainly a very interesting man with his great wealth of historical knowlege.  He's given a "chapter" over to my Edward Bunbury Foster on his website: http://www.turtlebunbury.com/family/bunburyfamily_bunburys/bunbury_fami…; The section is titled: The Foster Connection.

I've spent countless hours on the Bunburys but as I said in my post, my brick wall is at Joseph Foster & Margaret Tyrrell.  Before I read your email, I'd just sent Turtle another one querying the possibility that Speaker John Foster could be connected to my Joseph!

Joseph, his son Luke and Luke's son Edward Bunbury F, were all watchmakers.  They had a shop in Tullow St and they lived behind in their own home in Bridewell Lane.  When Luke died, the Memorial & Deed to these premises was given to the Rev Morgan for safe keeping but alas, they disappeared.  We have copies of letters written by Edward's mother Margaret to him in Australia stating the above and for the next half century Edward and his daughter Susannah & son-in-law Charles Drew Street tried to track these documents down to recover the money owed to them as they were finding life financially ruinous in Australia.  

At the age of 21, Edward married in London and it was there that his two children were born.  He was working as a watch & clockmaker for Peter des Granges at 33 Cockspur St in 1823.  Five years after the death of his wife in 1824, he & his 12 year old son James set sail for Australia.  He obviously moved in the 'right' circles in London because when he arrived in Capetown, he was invited to visit the Governor for dinner.  However, as with pretty much everyone who arrived on Australia's fair shore, it wasn't long before he became insolvent and from then until he died he seemed to live a hand-to-mouth existence.  

In April last year while travelling through Ireland with my cousin, we were able to visit William Bunbury at Lisnavagh.  It was a real buzz being able to to spend a little time with a very distant Bunbury relation, the ancestor-in-common being (I think) Benjamin Bunbury of Killerig way back in the 1600s.  I'm going to revisit William in a couple of months' time when I go back to Ireland for the 7th time!

I'll finish now and start clicking on all those links you've sent.

With many thanks, once again.

Jenny

 

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By way of an update.  

St Patrick's Day was good for me because I came across a Chancery Bill which names Margaret Tyrrell's parents and also her siblings.  The documents relate to a Chancery Bill following the non-repayment of a £500 loan made to a number of people by Margaret's father back before 1738.  The Bill was amended on numerous occasions and entered once again into Chancery on the 30th of December 1814.

Her parents were:

Edward James Tyrrell, gent. of Dublin (-1767) & Margaret Norris (-1776).

 

Her siblings were:

Richard Tyrrell (1753-1757)

Edward James Tyrrell, Esq, of Dublin (1754-1813)

Mathew Tyrrell (abt 1757 - abt 1814)

Frances Tyrrell (1759-1767)

 

Margaret Norris had a brother, Rev Richard Norris (abt 1730-1789) who married Jane Coddington, great-granddaughter of Capt Nicholas Coddington of Holm Patrick, Co Louth. 
 

The above Margaret Tyrrell nee Norris made her will in September 1774 wherein she "appointed her brother Rev. Richard Norris and her Son Edward James Tyrrell Exors, who proved the Will in the Prerogative Court on 4 Jun 1776."  I wonder if her Will is still around and able to be read?  There is a record of the Will in the Ireland Diocesan and Prerogative Wills & Administrations Indexes 1595-1858 on Find My Past, but I haven't a clue as to how to actually order it, if it survives.

 

Anyway it's been very liberating to be able to knock down the wall which stood behind Margaret Foster nee Tyrrell.  My next 'attack' will be to find the forebears of her father-in-law, Joseph Foster who died in Carlow.

 

I'll keep this page updated as/when I come across any new information.

 

Jenny

 

 

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Hi Jenny, have been remiss is getting back to you but had little to add, you are really doing well. I have been doing a night class in Dublin by a genealogist and medival historian and she says if you get back to that point it is often easier to get back further to circa 900, but as it appears some of your peolpe may have arrived in the 1640 to 1690 period. 

The last Coddington that I am aware of living in Oldbridge House left for Canada about 20 years ago, they lived in Oldbridge House on the Battle of the Boyne Site, see http://battleoftheboyne.ie/ ;

What brought me back to you was a post on Ancestry message board from 2010 but recently replied to,  https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.ireland.lou.gene… I look at these message boards every now and again.

Also you mention Holm Patick in Louth, the only place of that name I am aware of is in Skerries in North Dublin county. So interesting. Irish townlands can be seen here https://www.townlands.ie/ Spelled Holmpatrick now.

There are Norris around here and we have a Senator David Norris in the irish Senate, upper chamber of the Oireachteas or Parliment to you. The name is associated with Queens County now Laois and this borders Carlow. 

Visitor has arrived so I am off.

Regards
Pat

 

St Peters LouthIrelandXO Volunteer

Lovely to hear from you again Pat.  Since my last message to you, a friend & I visited my very dear friends Pat & Anna Morgan (Morgans Seafoods) who live in Omeath, Co Louth.  I was there last year as well with my cousin .... and I'll be returning at the end of October having spent a couple of weeks beforehand golfing in Northern Ireland (weather permitting!).  My late husband & I met Pat & Anna back in 2007 at an Austin car rally which was held up in Ballymena and since then they've been out to Australia to visit and we, or I over the last 2 years, have visited them at their home.  I'd previously had no idea about my own connection to Co Louth, and Drogheda in particular, when we visited the Drogheda Museum back in 2009.   Do you know if there is grave to be seen for Richard Norris DD, and if so where it would be located?  

I've been looking over his profile page on my Ancestry tree and came across this piece of information for which unfortunately I have no source listed:

Vestry Book Note

1785 • Parish of Dunleer, Ireland

"by Rev. Richd. Norris, that the Rev. Dr. Thos. Foster bequeathed by Will £50 for the poor of the United Parishes, and I distributed the said £50, in wheels (?) to the young, and blankets to the old, R. N."   This Thomas Foster was the father of John Foster the politician but again, I'm wondering if there's a link here to my Joseph Foster?

The other lovely thing my friend & I did when we were there last April was to have a cuppa firstly with William Bunbury at Lisnavagh & then another with his brother Turtle at his home on the Lisnavagh Estate.  He is such a delightful man, something I'd come to recognise after many years of corresponding with him. 

Well that's about all for now Pat ... but your message has given me the impetus to get going on researching this branch of my forebears once again.

With kind regards,

Jenny 

 

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PS:  Thanks for all those links Pat which I've had a good look at.   They're all very interesting but I still haven't been able to find anyone looking like a contender for the role of my Joseph Foster!  My knowledge of Irish history is very sketchy so the article on the Battle of the Boyne was good to read ... even though I wouldn't class all that conflict as good!!

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Jenny

delighted you enjoyed your trip to Ireland, my wife is from Carlingford near Omeath, knows some of the Morgans but not Pat. Small world. There is a Facebook page called Cooley Peninsula Photos Old and New and last August 2017 some one posted a 1950 photo of old Arthur Morgan and I discovered it is actually online here, there are 3 photos of an oyster vender but it is a Morgan in Carlingford, https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbeg/12086 Small world.

Anyway I think only the register of wills survey, the Four Courts was attacked in 1922 in the civil war and the defenders or anti treaty forces were using the Public Records Office as a magazine (ammunition) store and guess what took a direct hit, the Public Records Office. There is a major effort to locate copies of some of the records that were copied for legal or other reasons under way but we are looking at 10 years or so. There is an big voluntary effort to transcribe the Registry of Deeds in Ireland,https://irishdeedsindex.net/index.php Some from 1708 but only really got under way in about 1800.

Richard Norris died in St. Peters Drogheda in 1764 there does not appear to have been a headstone or else it is unreadable as it does not appear on the site JB Hall sent to you earlier. This appears to be the son.

The register is online and two Norris births father Rev.William Richard - 04 September 1754 Richard

Norris Rev.Richard - 26 February 1762  Mary Norris

It is is son Richard dies in 1764 son of rev Dr Richard Norris so no sign of his death but a Norris death in 1812 but no forename.

Found this marriage in 1753 Norris / Coddington The Rev.Mr.Richard / Miss.Jane / 16 June 1753 

The St Peters registers are here and free https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/rcb-library/online-parish-record…

If they are buried in Drogheda they are most likely in St Peters Church of Ireland or possibly the Cord Cemetery which is closed to the public.

Getting late now so am off.

Regards

Pat

St Peters LouthIrelandXO Volunteer

Well it certainly is a small world.  Fancy your wife coming from beautiful Carlingford.  I could help but feel sad after seeing the photo of Ballymascanlan on the Cooley Peninsula FB page though ... its demise has been quite remarkable hasn't it.  I've been past there on numerous occasions, particularly when heading for Fitzpatrick's .... but now they seem to have come a cropper as well!  They closed shortly after I was there in May however it looks as though they may be open again now.  

It's really great that those Anglican records are so freely available online Pat.  I hadn't seen them previously ... Mr Google hadn't picked them up for me!  Even though Jane Coddington is on the extreme periphery of my tree, I'm going to try and get down to Oldbridge House while I'm staying so close now that there is that tenuous connection!

It's a beautiful spring day here today so it wasn't hard to get out for a walk this morning.  I'm looking forward to being back in Ireland and seeing some autumn colours ... I haven't experienced an autumn since April 2016 as I've been travelling in Ireland and the UK at that time of year for the last 2 years.  I'm not complaining though ... the springtime flowers were a joy to behold.

I'll keep in touch Pat should anything of interest arise.

Bye for now, Jenny 

  

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Hi again Pat.

Well, today I visited St Peter's in Drogheda and even though the church was locked, I had a good wander around the gravestones.  At least I've been there now.  I'm still no further advanced with the Fosters!

Hope all's well with you.

Jenny

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Just an update Pat. 

After spending the last week tapping away in another attempt to find my Joseph Foster's forebears, yesterday I came across information which caused me to cheer out loud!  I found a document showing that my Edward Tyrrell 'kept' Norris's Coffee House in Essex St, Dublin.  In conjunction with that I found that there was Richard Norris, a bookseller with a shop on the corner of Crane Lane & Essex St so this explains how it came to be that my Tyrrell family lived in Essex St.  I'm thinking that Richard Norris the bookseller could've been the father of Rev Richard Norris and his sister, my Margaret.  Given that books & coffee houses went hand in hand at that time (& even to this day!), it's probable that Richard owned both businesses.  So then I have to think that for some reason Luke Foster met up with Margaret in the coffee house ... maybe he'd travelled there from Carlow to learn his trade as a watchmaker!  

I've also revisited the Chancery Bill and have looked more closely at how & where all the property went that caused Edward Tyrrell & his descendants to lose the £500 + (a £1000 penal bond) he'd loaned out to Alex Woods, linen draper of Limerick, back on the 17th of June 1765!   I'd love to be able to get copies of all the associated mortgages and see who ended up owning all these properties.  I know my EB Foster was still trying to get his hands on the money after his mother died in 1827, even though he was then 10,000 miles away and living here in Australia.  I wonder if there's a Statute of Limitations!!!  Finding that Edward's occupation wouldn't have given him much in the way of remuneration, I now wonder how it came to be that he had enough money to make that loan, and for him to be able to tack 'gent' & 'Esq' onto his name.  Perhaps he already had money and was just 'keeping' the coffee house as something to keep him occupied.  It seems as though there were a few high profile names who owed him money, ie George & Burton Tandy (one-time Mayor of Drogheda), and Denis Daly, landowner & politician.

I've had two trips back to Ireland since my last message, the first in May last year when I flew out of Dublin with my leg in plaster after breaking my ankle on the path to The Old Man of Storr on the Isle of Skye!  After spending most of last winter non-weightbearing, by November I was recovered enough to resume my holiday and spend three more weeks circumnavigating Ireland and visiting many more spectacular points along the Wild Atlantic Way.  Unfortunately the weather was most inclement when I was staying with my friends in Omeath so I didn't get to do any more sightseeing in Co Louth.  My cousin & I have airline tickets to travel back to the UK although our depature date's been pushed back again to the 12th of May next year ... Covid restrictions permitting!  We were supposed to be there this September but obviously those arrangements had to be shelved!  I'm hoping to spend at least a couple more weeks in Ireland during our time away.

Anyway I hope this message finds you & yours in good health Pat.

Stay safe & bye for now, Jenny

 

    

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Hi Jenny, we have had a lot of chats here, just reading back on them, oddly there was a query here recently on the name Addy, I really wanted to find a Paddy Addy but my limited sense of humour was foiled, but there were plenty of Addy people in Louth, one of them married a Norris who appears to be from Oberstown near Ardee in Louth, there is also an Oberstown near Lusk in North County Dublin, and noticed Norris marriages there in Skerries I think, this is Holmpatrick as you mention, not sure why some call it Holmpatrick but there must be a reason historically. 

Also looked at Louth Genealogical Sources (by the way there are journals from them going back to 1904, they can be viewed on J Stor, payway but cheap, if you join Louth History Society (CLAHS) you ge free access, cost €18 annually, also noticed a number of Tyrrell names on their site in the 1700s in Dundalk. 

You mentioned in one of your posts about Ballymascanlon and oddly I am in email and Facebook contact with a lady in Wisconsin whose ancestor was the post master there, also as a matter of interest now Joe Biden's maternal line are from Cooley, also see a Tyrrell Cruise connection on that site, Cruise is a historic name here, and Tom Cruise on Who Do You Think You Are got back to the 900s on that name here. (We claim them all, except the bad ones and sure they were only rogues!!) .

I think the chancery stuff and the wills were blown up when the civil war started with the attack on the Four Courts, so only lists exist, however a major undertaking has started to find these records as they may also have been lodged with Solicitors offices etc or used in court cases so they are trying to locate all records that exist.

Land registry started in the early 1700s but was not compulsory but was quickly used as the courts placed great store on the registered owner. There is a voluntary project underway to digitise these records, I only use them to see what names are where in the 1700s but I see some Norris people in Duleek and Drogheda, Duleek is in Meath but about 5 miles from Drogheda, the site is here and also see a Tyrrell and Cruise entry together in Dublin, some extra info anyway if not really sure what to make of it but they existed, https://irishdeedsindex.net/index.php 

Stay safe and stay in touch, all information apprciated, sorry for the mixed anture of the response but want to be in bed before 1 am here.

Regards

Pat

St Peters LouthIrelandXO Volunteer

Hi Pat,

Paddy Addy .... very funny!  Much like Theresa Green on a recent episode I watched of Doc Martin.  I've watched that same episode many times but for some reason or other I hadn't picked up on that before!

It's so difficult sorting through all the Norris families ... there were so many of them and they so often used the same names.  I was delighted to find an email from Turtle Bunbury yesterday which included a number of Tyrrell & Norris newspaper notices he'd found.  He's included my Irish families on his website and as we find new information, he updates it: http://www.turtlebunbury.com/family/bunburyfamily_bunburys/bunbury_family_bunburys_killerig.html

I had a long conversation with my friends from Omeath tonight.  Fortunately their fish business has weathered the Covid storm really well and none of them or their staff have been touched by the virus.  When I saw your mention of Ardee I immediately thought of Anna as that's her homeplace.

I have a copy of the Chancery Bill which, if you have the time to look at, makes quite interesting reading.  From a genealogical point of view it confirms the existence and relationships of my Tyrrell & Norris families which is great.  You'll need to make yourself a coffee or whatever else may take your fancy before you embark on reading this complicated document!  

Tyrrell, Edward James, Esq (1754-1810) Dublin – Chancery Bill

(Luke Foster and Margaret his wife, which said Margaret is exix ) Edward James Tyrrell (deceased) admor of Edward Tyrrell, deceased. Plaintiff.

Jane Peacock Reade, Philip Reade, Wm Woods (George Tandy) Burton Tandy (and Elizabeth Tandy) and Wm Ridgeway (George, John, Burton, and Elizabeth Tandy. John Ellis II, John Cooper and Alice his wife and James Gaughran) (Robert Hevey) Defendants.

Bill 10 May 1810, amended 18 Jan 1811, 26 May 1812, and 30 Jan 1815.

Plt. Edward James Tyrrell of Dublin, Esq. admor of the goods of Edward Tyrrell, formerly of Dublin, gent, deceased, Plt’s father, who died intestate leaving goods unadministered by Margaret Tyrrell, deceased; and also surviving exor of the Will of said Margaret Tyrrell also deceased, as well for himself as for all others the creditors of Alex. Woods, junior, of Dublin, linen draper, deceased, who shall contribute to the expenses of this suit.    Sheweth that James Daly, late of Carrownekelly, Co. Galway, Esq., long since deceased, previous to 1738 was seised as of fee of the lands of Coolderagh, Cloonty and Coogey, lands of Knockafort and Island called the Holy Island and all islands thereunto belonging, and also the lands of Killrateery alias Killrattery, situate in the parish of Insralkagh, Co Clare and Galway, and of the tithes thereof.  Being so seised said James Daly by deeds dated 13 and 14 Oct 1738, reloaned to Alex. Woods of Limerick, linen drapers, all the afsd lands, to hold for 3 lives at peppercorn rent for first 4 years, and afterwards at £200 during the life of Catherine Daly, and after her death at £100 rent, which deed was registered 8 Nov 1738.   Alex. Woods held the lands till he died in Jan 1766, intestate, leaving Alex. Woods junior, his oldest son and heir.  Alex Woods, junior, borrowed from Edward Tyrrell (father to Plt) on 17 Jun 1765 the sum of £500 giving for same a penal bond of £1000.     Edward Tyrrell entered judgement thereon in Trinity term 1766.  Edward Tyrrell died in Jan 1767 intestate leaving Margaret Tyrrell his widow, Mathew Tyrrell and Plt. his only sons, and one daughter, without having been paid said £500.   Margaret Tyrrell took out letters of admin of her said husband’s goods on 25 Jan 1767.  Margaret Tyrrell died in March 1776, having made her Will dated 30 Sep 1774, whereby she left Plt. residuary legatee and appointed her brother Rev. Richard Norris and Plt. Exors, who proved the Will in the Prerogative Court on 4 Jun 1776.  Richard Norris threatened Alex. Woods, junior, with legal proceedings to recover the debt, whereupon the latter wrote a letter 17 June 1776, apologising for the delay etc.  Richard Norris died in Feb 1789.  Plt obtained a further grant in the Prerogative Court of the goods unadministered of his father Edwd Tyrrell.  Plt renewed the judgement against Alex Woods junior in Trinity term 1786, and again in Easter term 1793, but has been prevented from recovering said debt by reason of fraud practised by George Tandy and Wm Francis Read, they insisting that the legal estate was not dated in Alex. Woods, junior, inasmuch that the latter in Feb 1766, mortgaged all his legal interest and said lands to Robert Birch.  Plt Sheweth that Alex. Woods, junior, borrowed £3000 from Robert Birch of Dublin, merchant, to secure payment of which he executed deeds of mortgage dated 11 and 12 Feb 1766, upon the original leave of Oct 1738, which deed was not registered till 13 Dec 1766 subsequent to the entering of judgement against Alex Woods, junior, by Plt’s father.  On 1 Feb 1769 Robert Birch filed his bill in the Court of Exchequer apt Alex Woods, junior, on foot of said mortgage; and Alex Woods, junior, filed a cross bill against Robert Birch.  A decree was given 4 May 1777.  Before further proceedings were taken in said ? Robert Birch became bankrupt, and John Folie, Brent Neville, and Jeremiah Vickers of Dublin, Esqs, were chosen to be his assignees.  On 12 Feb 1781 Alex. Woods, junior, the mortgager died leaving Alex Woods his eldest son (since deceased), Wm Woods, one of the confederates, his second son and several other children.  A considerable number of rents became due to James Daly Esq, who having died intestate, Denis Daly of Dunsandle, (Loughrea), co Galway, Esq , his eldest son and heir became heir to same and Denis Daly in Hilary term 1784 brought an ejectment in Exchequer to obtain possession of the lands, alleging that the lives in the case were dead.  The assignees, J. Jolie, B. Neville, and J Vickers, of said Robt Birch in 1784 filed their bills in Chancery against Denis Daly, praying for a renewal of the Case.  Before further proceedings took place, viz. April 1785, Alex Woods, eldest son of the mortgagor died intestate and without issue leaving Wm Woods his brother and heir.  On 14 May 1786 J. Folie, B. Neville, and J. Vickers, the assignees filed a bill of revivor agst Denis Daly when it was decreed (in June 1788) that the Case shd be renewed on payment of the arrears of rent.  On 7 & 8 Oct 1790 deeds were executed whereby George Tandy of Drogheda, co Louth, and William Francis Read of Dublin, attorney at law, agreed to pay of said arrears and to take the mortgage from the assignees.  Accordingly George Tandy and WF Read purchased from said Wm Woods, and from Frances Woods, Jane Woods, Thomas Blakeney Woods, and David Woods, surviving children of Alex Woods, junior, their title and equity of redemption to said lands, and that they (Geo Tandy & WF Read) by deeds dated 11 & 12 Oct 1792 assigned their title thereto to Burton Tandy, then of the County of the down of Drogheda, Esq, the brother of said George Tandy, and P.t charges that said deed of 1792 was only taken by Burton Tandy in trust for his said brother George Tandy and for said WF Read.  Plt sheweth that a sum of £1830  was due to Plt as principal and interest and costs from 1 March 1810 on foot of said mortgage.  Said George Tandy and WF Read getting possession of said lands they severally died without paying Plt the money due to him, ie said WF Read died in 1801, intestate, leaving Jane Peacock Read his wife (wo obtained letters of admin of his goods in Prerogative) and Philip Read his eldest son; and said George Tandy died in 1804 unmarried and without issue, leaving Burton Tandy his only brother and heir, having only made his will dated 24 Feb 1804, with a codicil dated 16 Dec 1804, whereby he charged his lands with an annuity of £200 for Eliza Tandy and bequeathed legacies to his nephew John Tandy, Burton Tandy and D George Elliott and Alice Cooper the wife of John Cooper, charged on his lands, and left George Tandy residuary legatee and appointed Wm Ridgeway and Joseph Ridgeway, exors, who proved the Will in Prerogative Court.  Now said Jane Peacock Read, and Philip Read, heirs of said WF Read, combining with said Wm Woods heir to Alex Woods junior, and with Wm Ridgeway, surviving exor of said George Tandy (the said Joseph Ridgeway having lately died) and with said Burton Tandy the only brother and heir of George Tandy (who also claims some interest in said lands under the deed of 10 and 11 Oct 1792) and with George Tandy the nephew and  of said George Tandy (who claims all said lands under his Will) and with Eliza Tandy, John Tandy, Burton Tandy, George Elliott, Alice Cooper, & John Cooper her husband (all of whom claim legacies charged on said lands) and with James Gaughran who alleges that WF Read executor and mortgagee on said lands to him, all tend to defraud Plt etc. etc. etc. 

Bill entered 19 Jan 1811, amended by order dated 20 Dec 1810.

(The relative value of £500 in 1765 ranges is just over £100,000 today.)

The above document was transcribed from the original found on Find My Past (Crossle Genealogical Extracts)

Chancery bill, entered 30 December 1814

Luke Foster and Margaret his wife V Jane P Read and others.  30 Dec 1814.

Is a Bill of revision.

Plt. Luke Foster of the town of Carlow, gent. and Margaret Foster alias Tyrrell his wife, which Margaret is Exix of the Will of Edward James Tyrrell, of Dublin Esq., and also admin of the goods unadministered of Edward Tyrrell of Dublin, gent, deceased.

Defts. Jane Peacock Read and Philip Read then a minor on 20 June 1811 filed their answer.   George Tandy, Burton Tandy the elder, and Elizabeth Tandy filed their answer the same day.  George Tandy died 3 Aug 1812 intestate, without male issue leaving four daughters his coheiresses all then infants.  Edward James Tyrrell on 2 Feb 1813 filed a bill of ? against said infants, vix: Isabella Tandy, Frances Tandy, Elizabeth Tandy, and Mary Anne Tandy, and Stewart King, Esq was guardian of said minors.  Said Burton Tandy, John Tandy, and Alice Cooper are all since dead.  Edward James Tyrrell is also dead having made his Will dated 11 July 1806 and appoint Plt Margaret Foster his Exix.  Bill revised against said Jane Peacock Read, Philip Read, Elizabeth Tandy the elder, Wm Ridgeway, Wm Woods, Robert Heney (as assignee for James Goughran), Isabella Tandy, Frances Tandy, Elizabeth Tandy the younger, and Mary Anne Tandy, and said Burton Tandy the younger, George Elliott, and John Cooper.

Bill amended 30 Jan 1815, by order of 25 Dec 1815.

 (Edward James Tyrrell, brother of Margaret Foster nee Tyrrell.)

I've found a few things of interest on JStor and I still have 95 free reads before I have to pay!  I must've registered with them at some point but I really can't remember when!  

Stay safe over there Pat and thank you again for your continuing interest in my Irish forebears.

All the best & bye for now,

Jenny

 

 

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For years I and others have been trying to prove the connection between the Fosters of Irish politics and the Hollingsworth dynasty of actors/comedians. This is based on a statement which tells of an elopement between a John or Thomas Foster and a Francis Tyrall. I have attached an extract from family history. The whole story (so far!) is available in the cloud at:

 

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AivdcGd07cXcbua0W8R3_QCCPdc

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