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Fleming Altore

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I'm trying to find out some information on my ancestors William Fleming (b. c1829) and Catherine Fleming (b. c1831). Their childrenwere born in 1863-1866in Altore,Lowberry in 1868, and Altore in 1872. When William died in 1879, his address was recorded as Lowberry. Catherine was living in Altore in 1901. I found a marriage for William and Catherine Fleming in 1850 in the parish of Ballintubber/Ballymoe. I have 5 other known children of the couple with no exact birth date but the earliest was born about 1853 which ties in with the marriage.

I have been unable to find a Fleming family in Altore or Lowberry during the time of Griffith's Valuation. Catherine andthree of her children were evicted from their home in Altore in 1898. After the eviction, the premises was handed over to a man from Hollymount. The family retook possession of the house but a man was put in possession of the property as caretaker and saw them re-enter the house. A newspaper article stated that the farm had been in the hands of the family for generations. The landlord was a man from Elphin but the eviction was carried out at the insistence of the man from Hollymount.

The newspaper article suggests that the farm belonged to the family for generations so I would have expected to see a Fleming at the time of Griffith's Valuation. The marriage in Ballymoe, if them, suggests that wife was from that parish rather than Kiltullaghbut the husband could have still been from Kiltullagh. There is a chance that not everything was presented accurately and I don't know why a man from Hollymount would have wanted their land in particular. I would love to be able to confidently identify the correct family at the time of Griffith's or the Tithe Applotment books.

I would appreciate any help and thank you for reading my message.

RoscommonGenealogy

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I found in another newspaper article that stated they owned 32 acres. My curiosity for the homeplace and when they came there would probably be answered by the Griffith's revision books.

RoscommonGenealogy

It looks like William Fleming was living in Pollynoon at the time of Griffith's Valuation. I was sent on records that seem to be gleaned from someone's memory that lists the last occupants and previous occupants of houses in Pollynoon. The record had William Fleming and Catherine Fleming as previous occupants in Pollynoon. William and Catherine's daughter Mary lived with her husband in Pollynoon even though her husband was from Cloonfineen. This provides an explanation of sorts why Mary and her husband lived in Pollynoon rather than Cloonfineen or Altore. Either William and Catherine still held land in Pollynoon while living in Altore or else perhaps the land may have been inherited from a sibling of William's who never married.

RoscommonGenealogy

R-Plot                  Left to Right

 

3-14       In Loving Memory of

Patrick Shiel (of Altore)

Who Died Aug 10 1910 Aged 72 Years

And His Children Lizzie,

Mary Kate, Delia, Agnes & Anne

And John Who Died May 1885

Also John Joseph Who Died 1888

And of His Wife Nora

Died Nov 18 1935  Aged 80 Yrs

Their Son Michael Died Dec 21 1978

Aged 85 Years

His Wife Annie Died Mar 26 1981

Aged 86 Years

Erected By His Fond Wife & Children

M. Hawthorne                    W.town

 

 

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