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Flavin/Flahavan/Flavahan Family

Hello, I am trying to find information on the Flavin (Flahavan/Flavahan) family. From what I know, before my ancestors came to the United States their last name was either Flavahan or Flahavan. I have found both of these spellings in my research. A second fact that I know is that my ancestors came from County Kerry. The furthest back that I have been able to get is James Jacobus Flahavan. He was born in 1825 possibly and passed away in 1874. He married Mary Maria Wolfe (1825-?) on September 28, 1846. Mary Maria Wolfe was born in Limerick, Ireland.

James and Mary possibly had 9 children:
1. Patrick James Flahavan (1849-1885)
2. James Edward Flahavan (1852-1942)
3. Thomas Flahavan (1857-?)
4. Edward Flahavan (1858-1922)
5. Margaret Flahavan (Stack) (1864-1917)
6. Catherine Flahavan (1866-?)
7. Mary Flahavan (Ryan) (1867-1907)
8. Timothy Joseph Flavahan (1856-1932)

Timothy Joseph Flavahan (the 9th child) is my great great grandfather who settled in Kansas City, Missouri. He married Johanna Hayes (1865-1972). He and Johanna married in 1888, but the location is unknown. From family stories, he was not supposed to marry Johanna Hayes, but did anyways against his family's wishes and "thumbed his nose at his family and Ireland" before leaving. I have also heard that he was an "orphan", but I'm thinking this is the way he classified himself after he left the country.

Most of the Flahavan/Flavahan last names have changed to Flavin when the people came over from Ireland to America.

Here is what I have concerning James and Mary Flahavan children:

1. Patrick James Flahavan (1849-1885) m. Johanna Houlihan (1848-?)
a) James Patrick Flavin (1871-1945) born in Ballyconry, County Kerry, Ireland and settled in Waterfod, Oakland County, Michigan
b) Martin Flavin (1872-1941) born in County Kerry, Ireland and settled in St. Louis, Missouri
c) Michael Patrick Flavin (1873-1970) born in Ballyconry, County Kerry, Ireland and settled in St. Louis, Missouri
d) Edmond Flahavan ( 1877-1895) born in County Kerry, Ireland and passed in County Kerry, Ireland
e) Patrick James Flahavan (1880-1963) born  in County Kerry, Ireland and passed in Limerick, Ireland
f) Mary Ann Flahavan (1883-?) born in County Kerry, Ireland and passed away unknown

2. James Edward Flavin (1852-1942) m. Ellen (maiden name unknown) (1862-1937)
a) John Frances Flavin (1890-1963) born in Kansas City, Missouri and passed away unknown
b) Edward Patrick Flavin (1892-?) born in Ohio passed away unknown
c) William Flavin (1895-?) born in Ohio passed away unknown
d) Martin Flavin (1896-?) born in Ohio passed away unknown
e) Mary Flavin (1898-?) born in Ohio passed away unknown

3. Thomas Flahavan (1857-?) England (not sure if he is a part of this family tree)

4. Edward Flahavan (1858-1922) County Kerry, Ireland

5. Margaret Flahavan (Stack) (1864-1917) born in Ballybunion, County Kerry, Ireland and passed in Kansas City, Missouri

6. Catherine Flahavan (1866-1945) born in Doon, Ballybrunnion, County Kerry, Ireland and passed in Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland  m. David Dominic Ruddle (1855-1921)
a) Mary Ann Ruddle (1895-?) born in Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland
b) Bridget Ruddle (1898-1990) born in Glanawillan, County Kerry, Ireland and passed in Winchester, Hampshire, England
c) Catherine "Kate" Ruddle (1900-?) born in Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland
d) Margaret Ruddle (1903-?) born in Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland
e) David Ruddle (1904-?) born in Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland
f) Hanora Ruddle (1906-?) born in Astee, Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland

7. Mary Flavin (1867-1907) m. James Ryan (1869-1904)
a) John J. Ryan (1892-?) born in St. Louis, Missouri and passed away in Las Vegas, Nevada
b) Mary Catherine Ryan (1893-?) born in St. Louis, Missouri
c) James T. Ryan (1895-?) born in St. Louis, Missouri
d) William F. Ryan (1896-?) born in St. Louis, Missouri and passed away in Detroit, Michigan
e) Theresa Ryan (1898-1972) born in St. Louis, Missouri
f) Marguerite Ryan (McGilley) (1900-?) born in St. Louis, Missouri

8. Timothy Joseph Flavahan (1856-1932) m. Johanna Hayes (1865-1972)
a) Mary Flavin (1889-?) born in Kansas
b) Johanna M. Flavahan (1891-?) born in Kansas
c) Josephine Flavin (Keating) (1893-?) born in Kansas
d) James J. Flavin (1895-1969) born in Kansas and passed in Shawnee Mission, Kansas
e) Timothy Joseph Flavin (1897-1967) born in Kansas and passed in Kansas City, Missouri
f) Daniel R. Flavin (1901-1972) born in Kansas City, Missouri and passed in Kansas City, Missouri
g) John F. Flavin (1907-1995) born in Kansas City, Missorui and passed in Kansas City, Missouri

My great grandfather's name is Daniel R. Flavin (9f) and he married Lucille M. Collins and had 3 children: Joseph Edward Flavin (my grandfather), Marie Flavin (Pace), and Daniel R. Flavin Jr.

My wish is to find as much information as possible on James Jacobus Flahavan and his family. I understand that most of the records have been burned and that any information before James Flahavan has been destroyed. My hope is that some information still around and can point me in the right direction.

Thank you, Amanda Flavin

IrelandXO member

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Amanda:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

The townland for the family is likely Doon East or Doon West in Killehenny civil parish with the RC parish as Ballybunion. Records for Ballybunion start in 1831

www.irishgenealogy.ie is a free Irish government site which has Co. Kerry church records. I found the following records which includes the marriage of James and Mary and also the May 1870 marriage of Patrick and Joanna Houlihan.:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm…

Here is a link to the Ballybunion parish register http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0651   You may find records for other members of the family.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you so much Mr. McDonnell!

IrelandXO member

Hello,

I have an update on some information about Timothy Joseph Flahavin. I have been talking to a granddaughter of his, and found out this is the correct spelling of the name before he immigrated to America. Based off of family history and records, his parent's names are Patrick Flahavin and Johanna Hennessey. Timothy did have brothers and sisters, but not all of them immigrated to America. I will try and get a list of his siblings up soon. Based off of Timothy's birth certificate (which was found) he was born in Lisselton Cross, Ballybunion, County Kerry. His parents died when he was young, so his uncle raised him. Based off of family history, Timothy and his uncle did not get along, thus leading Timothy to leave Ireland in his early 20s. He settled in Kansas City, Missouri and met and married his wife: Johanna Hayes. I was wrong earlier in saying that they knew each other, but Timothy did know Johanna's sisters. I hope that this clarification helps in finding his family. I believe that two of his sisters immigrated to New Zealand and Australia, but I am not sure which ones and when.

IrelandXO member

Looking for information on Catherine Flaven born around 1813 lived in Caven county, i believe  on the Shirley Estate,  shw was married  to Nicholas McBride, they had three sons, they left Ireland 1849 for Canada. 

Thanks 
JM

McBridejk

JM:

Can I suggest that you post a new message on our message board rather than a comment on this prior message. Thanks!

Roger McDonnell

Castlemore RoscommonIrelandXO Volunteer

sorry will do 

McBridejk

Hi Amanda,

I have come across Michael Patrick Flavin, who was born in 1875 in Ballyconry, Co.Kerry, ireland a townland which you mentiond.

At the turn of the century Michael 'Mike' Patrick Flavin was a teacher in Ireland. Apparently he was a feisty young man who didn’t like the British [occupiers], and often said so in the classroom. One Friday, which was payday, Mike met his friends in the pub after work. Someone came to the pub and warned Mike not to go home as the police were waiting for him at his house. With the help of friends Mike was able to book passage to the U.S. and ultimately came to St. Louis where his two older brothers had come years earlier. It was a month or so later that Mike’s parents received a letter telling them he was alive and safe in the United States. While riding in a Ferris wheel carriage, he met Julia O’Brien, also an Irish immigrant. They struck up a relationship which eventually led to their marriage on April 26, 1905.

Julia and Michael raised a very loving family of six children –
Mary Margaret (Sissy), Edmond, Cornelius (Con/Connie), James, Glennon (Glenn) and Cyrilla. Family, neighborhood, church and school were four principal influences on the faith and character of the Flavin children, including Connie and Glenn who would eventually be ordained priests. Glennon Patrick Flavin was born on March 2, 1916, and named after Archbishop John Glennon of St. Louis. He was the youngest boy and, before long, his brothers dubbed him “Little Bear” for his spirit of determination.

Michael worked as a police officer for forty-two years until his retirement as a lieutenant in 1949. Julia O’Brien Flavin, the
homemaker, passed away on January 24, 1964, at the age of eightythree.
Michael died six years later on May 16, 1970, at the age of ninety-five. His impact on the character of all his children, and
on Glennon Patrick in particular, as a defender of the law and a disciplinarian, was considerable.

Bishop Glennon P. Flavin’s paternal great grandparents were James Patrick and Mary (Wolfe) Flahavan, and Martin and Margaret (Fealey) Houlihan.

His paternal grandparents were Patrick James and Johanna (Houlihan) Flavin.
His father had five siblings. The two older brothers, James Patrick (d. 1917) and Martin Patrick (d. 1941), preceded the third son Michael Patrick to St. Louis. The other three siblings stayed in Ireland: Edmond Patrick, a soccer player who died in his twenties of appendicitis; the youngest son Patrick James, and Mary Margaret Nee (Connelly) who died in Ireland during
childbirth with her second daughter Johanna. Martin later brought both of Mary Margaret’s daughters, Madge and Johanna, to St. Louis.

Does this family fit in with yours?

Ann

terryaglish

Michael Patrick Flavin's parents were James Patrick and Mary (Wolfe) Flahavan,

Are these the same couple as the James Jacobus Flahavan and Mary Maria Wolfe (1825-?) which you mentioned above?

 You have a c) Michael Patrick Flavin (1873-1970) born in Ballyconry, County Kerry, Ireland and settled in St. Louis, Missouri, whcih may be the Michael Patrick Flavin above

I found all of the info above in the Bishop Flavin 'Loyal Servant of the King'
School Sisters of Christ the King
in collaboration with
Peter E. Mayeux
and
Monsignor Myron J. Pleskac
cksisters.

which I have a pdf copy of e-mailed to me by School Sisters of Christ the King.

If you would like a copy I will ask their permission.

 

terryaglish

Thank you Ann for all the information. I have heard of those names, and at one point had that under my family tree. I have heard from different sources that the Flavins you have mentioned are a part of my family, but I've also had others tell me they are not. The Mike Flavin you are describing is hopefully the brother of Timothy Flavin (my great-great grandfather). That would be great if you could ask School Sisters of Christ the King for a copy of Bisop Flavin "Loyal Servant of the King".
​Thank you for getting ahold of me!

​Amanda Flavin

 

 

 

IrelandXO member

Hi Amanda,

I have e-mailed them and am waiting for a reply. She is also in contact with his family and I can ask her if she can ask them if they wouldn't mind you contacting them if you would like.

As soon as I hear back I will let you know.

Take care,

Ann

terryaglish

Above link is to part of the book by Bishop Flavin.

terryaglish

Amanda,

My e-mail address is asmidz@yahoo.co.uk

I have been given permission to give you a copy of the book in pdf.

I have also had an e-mail from some of your relatives.

If you can e-mail me then I can forward it onto you.

Once I hear from you I will include in future e-mails.

Kind regards,

Ann

terryaglish

Ann,

My name is Jim Weber.  My great grandmother is Mary Margaret Connelly that you mention in previous posts in this string. My grandmother is Madge that you mention being brought to St Louis by Martin Flavin.  I have a lot of information on the Flavin side, but very little on the Connelly side.  Any information you can help with would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

The biography on Bishop Flavin was very interesting..

 

IrelandXO member

As i continue attempting to trace my Redmond branch, I came across an Ann "Nancy" Flavin/Flahavan (1791-1875) who married Owen Eugene Redmond (1786-1875) in 1822 in Waterford, Ireland. They were both born in Ireland and died in Nova Scotia, Canada where they moved to after getting married. Does that sound familiar to anyone here? 
Thanks! 

peppermintcaro…

As i continue attempting to trace my Redmond branch, I came across an Ann "Nancy" Flavin/Flahavan (1791-1875) who married Owen Eugene Redmond (1786-1875) in 1822 in Waterford, Ireland. They were both born in Ireland and died in Nova Scotia, Canada where they moved to after getting married. Does that sound familiar to anyone here? 
Thanks! 

peppermintcaro…

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