Emily KELLY c.1880

Dear Ted

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I will pass this to our Cahir Volunteer who may be able to shed some light on that aspect of things

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support 

Hi Ted

Please clarify dates as Birth / Marriage deaths are listed for same year on your message.

Regards

Thank you for the trouble you have gone to. I do appreciate it.

I apologise for the mis-spelling in my original message,

My information is that the marriage to Herbert Alfred CHRISTOPHERSON was in 1900 at Tipperary County? Town?

I believe he was a trawler fisherman

Ted

Ted,              Link to 1901 census for Amelia Christopherson and Daughter Mary aged 2 months, both listed as born in Tipperary, Amelia occupation is listed as "Soldiers Wife".  http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003911543/ ;

Her Husbands census record will be more difficult as they are recorded by Initials only and multiple entries.

Regards Gerlish

Thank you

Ted

Hello Tom, 

I do believe that Albert, Amelia and daughter Mary must be a diferent family of CHRISTOPHERSONS.                                 The English 1901 census shows Herbert Alfred in the Royal Artillery in a barracks at Woolwich, London.  His wife is shown as Emily, living seperately, in Woolwich, with  daughter Evelyn Maud (my wife's mother).  I believe they married at Cahir, as your record shows, and Emily followed Herbert to Woolwich when his unit returned to England. They soon returned to Ireland together. I have lost track of them from the 1901census to their return, to Cardiff, in 1913.                                                   If anybody else is following this thread - Emily died in Cardiff in 1917 after having one more daughter while in Wales.

Thank you for your very useful help.  I. and my wife, am extremely grateful

Hello Ted

William from Bracknell Berkshire UK here. I have been trying to find out about my great grandfather Herbert Alfred Christopherson who married Emily Kelly in Clogheen in 1900. I decided to google the name as I was finding information difficult to find on Ancestry etc. I was delighted to find this thread and have read comments and downloaded files. I can add to the information. My grandmother Mabel Victoria Christopherson was I think the youngest child as she was born in 1913 in Swansea, Wales. Her mother Emily died in 1917 at Oxford street Swansea. I have a copy of my granmothers birth certificate and Emily's death certificate. (she died of TB aged 36 )  The death was reported by daughter Eva Christopherson. It shows Herbert Alfred as spouse and is a Chief Engineer in the royal navy. I also have got a copy of his naval record where he was stationed at FLEETWOOD in Lancashre, once during the 1st world war and once after. I had always wondered how they had landed in Fleetwood where my mum and I were both born, as my gran told me her mum was Irish and her father Norwegian. I had rather liked the idea of having Viking ancestors but saw on his naval records he was born in Dublin, I suppose this could have been misread by the recording officer and it could be Durban? My wife thinks its hilarious.

My Gran Mabel Wilkinson died in 1969 aged 56 and my mum her eldest child: Millicent Groves died in 1977 aged just 43. So that line haven't had long lives so we haven't had much information to go on. It would be good to hear about other members of Herbert and Emily's family as they seemed to have had a few children none of whom I know anything about. 

So Tom if your wifes grandmother was Emily Kelly then your wife would have been my mum's cousin. I think !! - 

If you have any more information about Emily's family I would be very interested if you could post it. 

Thanks

William Groves

Ted,

Forgot to say that Herbert Christopherson died in Fleetwood in 1945.

William

Thanks for that Tom

I hadn't seen anything about a birth in a workhouse before. Maybe that's why there isn't much information between 1901 and 1913. Do you have inmate records for the workhouse concerned. There maybe a few chidren involved as I have seen birth records of Alfred in 1905 and assume Eva who reported Emily's death in 1917 was born in the early 1900's. I cant find anything about any of the family in the 1911 census.

I can't find any information about Emily being in Woolwich in 1901 as Ted had said previously, although Herbert is in Woolwich barracks in 1901. So your information about the 1901 census makes sense. Next time we are in Ireland, we will pay a visit to Market St Caher. We have a house in Co Tipperary that we bought 8 years ago long before we knew anything about Emily and Herbert and so are fascinated that the Christophersons are from the same county. So we visited Clogheen 2 weeks ago and had a look around St. Mary's church.

Is this the church that they were married in or is there another St Mary's in Caher. ?

Would Ted get this post as his wife may have more details of family members, as my Gran would have been his wifes Auntie and as said preiviously my Mum would have been have been his wifes cousin.

Any information would be appreciated.

thanks

William

Hi all, firstly I would like to introduce myself as the great grandson of Mr Herbert Alfred Christopherson. I have also been searching along with my now departed uncle Ted on this thread. I now believe that Herbert was born in and around Saint Ann's Wells co Dublin (Piperstown) in Ireland. He was according the his Royal Navy Reserve records born in Dublin but in the Royal Artillery Woolwich barracks records is states St Ann's Well so putting 2 and 2 together we have arrived at where we believe he was born. He married Emily Kelly on the 19th March 1900 at Cahir, County Tipperary, Ireland. She gave birth to Evelyn Maud Christopherson at Woolwich 20th March 1902 and then Mabel Victoria Christopherson 25th February 1913, 58 Oxford Street Swansea which I believe his family home was back then and was Living with Alfred Christopherson. Anyway I'm looking for anything to do with Herbert or Emily to begin with. I'm not sure which parish Saint Ann's Well is in in Ireland. Can somebody help with this. If so look forward to hearing from you.

Regards 

Glen James (Great Grandson)