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Ellen McCollum born 1866

G’day, I am Australian and my 2nd Great Grandmother Ellen McCollum came from Ireland, her birth is listed as 2 October 1866 and she married my 2nd Great Grandfather George Haydon Manning in Sydney Australia on the 11th of August 1877, I am trying to find out her lineage and also how and why she travelled to Australia, on her marriage certificate she has listed Ellen Condell as her mother, and Archibold McCollum as her father, coming from Gallway, Ireland, this is all I can find on her that is hard evidence of where she came from .. everywhere else gives me different parents and places eg ancestry.com has her mother as Ellen Jones but her father is listed correctly as Archibold McCollum, also coming from Carlow, so I’m unsure if he remarried or it’s incorrect .. if anyone can help me I’d be greatly appreciative.

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Glenn Manning  

glennmanning

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---This link to the Irish birth register shows an Ellen McCollum born to Archibald McCollum and Ellen Jones in Carlow in 1866.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03507/2289801.pdf

 

--I also found the baptismal record:

CARLOW (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - URGLIN

Baptism of ELLEN MCCOLLUM of PALATINE on 21 October 1866

 

Name

ELLEN MCCOLLUM

Date of Birth

N/R N/R N/R

Address

PALATINE

Father

ARCHIBOLD MCCOLLUM

Mother

ELLEN MCCOLLUM

 

Father Occupation

LABOURER

About the record

Book Number

Page

Entry Number

Record_Identifier

Image Filename

N/R

29

N/R

CW-CI-BA-13178

c-612-1-2-028

 

See: https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=c-612-1-2-028

 

--Here is the marriage record for Archibald and Ellen. Note that the two witnesses are named CONDELL, the surname Ellen gave for her mother. 

 

CARLOW (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - URGLIN

Marriage of ARCHIBOLD MCCOLLUM of PALATINE and ELLEN JONES of BURTON HALL PIERS on 3 April 1865

 

 

Husband

Wife

Name

ARCHIBOLD MCCOLLUM

ELLEN JONES

Address

PALATINE

BURTON HALL PIERS

Occupation

LABOURER

N/R

Father

JOHN MCCOLLUM

N/R

Mother

N/R

N/R

 

Husband Age

FULL

Husband Marital Status

B

Wife Age

FULL

Wife Marital Status

S

Husband's Father's Occupation

FARMER

Witness 1

THOMAS CONDELL (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)

Witness 3

MARY CONDELL (WITNESS FOR WIFE)

About the record

Book Number

Page

Entry Number

Record_Identifier

Image Filename

N/R

16

32

CW-CI-MA-3295

c-612-3-1-016

View the church register page containing this record.

 

Source: irishgenealogy.ie

glanvil3@aol.com

Thanks so much Patrica,

I wonder why she listed her mother as Ellen Condell on her wedding day .. odd that the witnesses at her parents wedding were both Condell’s also… I wonder if something happened to Ellen Jones and Archibald had a relationship with one of the Condell family .. 

 

 

glennmanning

Further research might clear this up, but then again, it might be a mystery forever. 

Did Ellen McCallum's mother die and an Ellen Condell became her stepmother or foster mother?

Did Ellen Jones  remarry, to  a Condell?

Did the person transcribing the record make an error? (You might try to see the original handwritten record.) 

I hope this helps. 

 

glanvil3@aol.com

Thanks Patrica, I’ll keep working at it and hopefully something pops up ..

Thank you for your help.

 

glennmanning

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