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Edward Darcy and his British navy service

From the book "The Other Famine - The 1822 Crisis in County Leitrim"  by Gerard MacAtasney I have learned that on 6 September 1822 Edward Darcy of Keshcarrigan, Kiltubrid parish, petitioned the London Committee for aid for the people of his parish who were starving. He told the London Committee that he had spent thirteen years in the British navy and that he had served on the ship Azuia at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805. Is there any way to learn more about this Edward Darcy, perhaps from British navy records? How would I go about searching for the old records of the British navy?

Jim

Jim

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Hi Jim, I follow Leitrim as my ancestors were from South Leitrim etc and have the book you mention. I was in the naval museum in Greenwich some years back and there is a Trafalger room or more, inlcuded is a map of where everyone came from with a pin showing were and I noticed the one for Letrim and only the one, not sure what more the museum there would tell you but you can find them online as I still get emails from them about various things mainly commercial stuff.

I was in contact with the local studies section of Leitrim library also and mentioned it to them and they said they would try to look it up so do not know if they did but I would be inclined to start there and the musuem, I think also the British Library may be a source. They do charge I think but not a lot.

I had a work colleague now deceased whose name was Body, apparently should be Boddy from the Cloone area of Leitrim, I remember him telling me there was a Body name from Dublin at Tralfalger which interested him as the Body spelling was rare.

There is a book based on the diaries of a Mrs Slacke from the late 1700s in Kiltubrid, it is a novel but fact based, name escapes me but there was a murder in Keshcarriagan at the Peyton house. I think I lent it and hope to find it again somewhere.

There is also a Leitrim History and Genealogy Facebook Page, private but apply but think most members are not local. 

Good Luck

Pat

St Peters LouthIrelandXO Volunteer

Thank you for the suggestions Pat. I will follow up on them and perhaps one of them will be able to help me.

Jim

Jim

Hello Jim,

The National Archives, Kew, Surrey, about 5 ½ miles west of London, holds British military records, including naval records that go back to the Battle of Trafalgar.

At the National Archives website, I found information that may pertain to your Edward Darcey, only in this information, Edward’s last name is spelled, “Darcey,” who was a “Landsman,” on the HMS Africa, not the Azuia. In further research about the ship’s of the line during the Battle of Trafalgar, no such ship by the name of Azuia was present on either the British or French/Spanish side of the naval battle, which took place off the coast of Spain.

The information I uncovered at the National Archives comes from a section of their online catalog called, “Trafalgar Ancestors.” You can search the Trafalgar Ancestors advance search function at the following National Archive link: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/advanced_search…

Make sure you spell Edward’s last name as Darcey, not Darcy, or D’arcy/D’arcey, or you won’t achieve any results. Also at the advanced search function you can see which ships were present at Trafalgar by clicking on the “Ship’s name/Choose ship” dropdown box. A ship by the name of Azuia is not listed as being at the battle.

Edward Darcey is shown to have come from “Oughternought,” Leitrim. He may have later moved to Keshcarrigan, in the Kiltubrid Parish. Oughternaught actually refers to the Civil Parish of of Oughteragh. The information about Edward Darcey in Trafalgar Ancestors also shows that was 22 years old at the time of the battle in 1805. His ship’s pay book shows that he was a “Landsman” in service between 14 September 1805 to 3 December 1805, and that he was at Trafalgar. The Battle of Trafalgar took place on 21 October 1805. Admiral Horatio Nelson was shot and killed by a French sniper during the battle.

A Landsman was a term used in the British Navy for a person who was in service for less than a year, after which time he became an Ordinary Seaman.

The information about Edward also shows he was “DSQ” 3 Dec 1805 Gibraltar Hospital.” DSQ stands either for “Discharged, Sick Quarters,” or perhaps “Dockyard Sick Quarters.” It is not known from this entry if Edward Darcey was in the hospital due to wounds he received at Trafalgar, or from sickness.

The information about Edward Darcey from the National Archives’ Trafalgar Ancestors can be viewed at the following link: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/details.asp?id=7…

Below is the transcription from the link above:

Edward Darcey aged 22 born in Ougternought, Leitrim, Ireland.
Ship: HMS Africa
Rank/Rating: Landsman

Service details
Comments: From: Zealand late Ceres Volr
HMS Africa
Ship's pay book number: (SB 211)
14 September 1805 to 3 December 1805 (Was at Trafalgar)
Rank/rating: Landsman
Comments: DSQ 3 Dec 1805 Gibraltar Hospital.

Sources used
Catalogue reference: ADM 37/99
____

Jim, you’re going to have to contact the National Archives in Kew to see if they can send you copies of all the information about Edward Darcey’s naval service record on the HMS Africa. This information has not been digitized. The catalog description about the HMS Africa and its National Archives Reference Number, is below:

Catalogue description
Ship: AFRICA

This record has not been digitised and cannot be downloaded.

You can order records in advance to be ready for you when you visit Kew. You will need a reader's ticket to do this. Or, you can request a quotation for a copy to be sent to you.

Order in advance Request a copy
Reference: ADM 37/99
Description:
Ship: AFRICA

Date: 1805 July - 1806 Feb
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
______________________________________________

Go to the following link to “Make a records and research enquiry” to the National Archives
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/contact-us/make-a-records-and-resea…

In your enquiry, copy and paste the information you see above concerning Edward Darcey’s naval record at Trafalgar, as the National Archives will need the National Archives Catalog Reference: ADM 37/99.

The other option you have is to access the National Archives “Live Chat” function to talk to an advisor for pointers about how to obtain Edward Darcey’s service record on the HMS Africa in the Battle of Trafalgar. To access Live Chat, go to the following link:
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/contact-us/make-a-records-and-resea…

Also Jim, you can view the “Order of Battle" at Trafalgar to see which ships on the British and French sides were engaged, including Edward Darcey’s HMS Africa, whose commander was Captain Henry Digby. Go to the Wikipedia article at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_at_the_Battle_of_Trafalgar

Scroll down the page until you come to the subheading, “Table of the British Fleet,” below which are the names of the British ships as well as the names of the French/Spanish fleet engaged in the battle. The HMS Africa is the first ship named. You will see however, that no ship named “Azuia,” is listed in the Order of Battle.

For more information about the HMS Africa, go to the following links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Africa_(1781)
https://is.gd/7oDY4F
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Africa_(1781)#/media/File:HMS_Africa_…

Concerning “Oughternought,” that is, Oughteragh, Leitrim, it is possible that Edward Darcy was born in the parish, and later moved to Keshcarrigan, Civil Parish of Kiltubrid, after he left the Royal Navy.

Jim, if you contact the National Archives in Kew, please let me know if they will be sending you Edward’s service record in the Royal Navy during the time of Trafalgar in 1805.

With Best Wishes,

Dave Boylan

davepat

Dave,

Thank you very much for the informaton on Edward Darcey. This may very well be the person I am searching for although the information you found on him does not entirely match the information I found in the book by Gerard MacAtasney. I will contact the National Archives in Surrey to see if they can send me any more information on Edward Darcy or if they may have records on anyone else with the same or similar name. I will try to let you know if I have any luck.

Jim TeVogt

Jim

Hi Jim,

Many thanks for your reply. It is very much appreciated.

I agree that the information about Edward Darcey in the Trafalgar Ancestors database, does not match the information in Gerard MacAtasney book, “The Other Famine: The 1822 Crisis in County Leitrim,” as shown in the Endnotes for Chapter 5, 15 ibid.

I did a very extensive search for a ship named Azuia, both as a ship of the line at Trafalgar, as well as a British ship plying the oceans in the 18th and 19th centuries, but with no success. Then too, information at Trafalgar Ancestors and at Wikipedia, do not a have a ship by the name of Azuia taking place in the Battle of Trafalgar.

The other thing too is, only one Edward “Darcey” of County Leitrim is named as having been at the Battle of Trafalgar in the Trafalgar Ancestors database. What does agree with MacAtasney book is that Edward was from County Leitrim.

Jim, if you learn any new information about Edward Darcy from the National Archives I would really appreciate knowing what you have discovered in his naval record.

Once again, thank you for writing back.

Dave

davepat

Hi Dave,

I contacted the National Archives by email. They said because of Covid 19 they are open only on a limited basis. Research can be done in person by making an appointment and requesting the records you want to research ahead of time. They do not offer record copying service at this time. So unless I could locate someone to go to the National Archives in person I will not be able to get any more information on Edward Darcey/Darcy in the near future. That is disappointing but I really appreciate the information you were able to locate for me. I think the Edward Darcey you found is probably the person I am looking for and with knowing his age at least I have some idea where he might fit into the Darcy family. If you happen to know of anyone who might go to the National Archives for me I would like to get in contact with them. Otherwise I will try again in a few months if the Covid 19 situation improves and will let you know of anything I find out.

JIm

Jim

Hi Jim,

That is really disappointing to hear about the National Archives at Kew. There are a number of researcher who will undertake to look for records for you, but they all charge for their service. You can see a list of the independent research who are familiar with Royal Navy ancestral research at the National Archives at the following: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/irlist/default.asp?action=1&slctcata…

The one person in the list that I've heard about, though never commissioned to do research is Bob O'Hara, who actually lives in Kew, Surrey, near the National Archives. He has many years' experience with British Military research at the National Archives.

But you may also want to access information about a half a dozen or so of the other researchers to see what they charge if you want to eventually have them look for Edward Darcy's records. Because you have a catalog number for Edward Darcy and his ship, HMS Africa, the research may not take as long as it would without the catalog number. Some of these researchers are not cheap though. You may have to spend a few quid to hire one, but still, see what each charges for the research.

I too think the Edward Darcey in the National Archives record is your man. I'm really curious to know why he ended up in the hospital in Gibraltar after the battle. Was he injured during the battle? If so, how was he injured? If you do hire a researcher, you may also want to ask if Edward received any awards or commendations from the Royal Navy for his having fought at Trafalgar 215 years ago this year.

Please keep in touch Jim. Good luck with the research.

Dave

davepat

Dave, I have located someone to go to the National Archives to search for information on Edward Darcey. They had to enter a sort of lottery to get a time slot for going to the National Archives. It is scheduled for 10 September so I have my fingers crossed that something good will be found for me. 

Jim

 

Jim

That's great news Jim! Please keep me posted if you learn anything new about Edward Darcy and  the Battle of Trafalgar when he was on the HMS Africa. It wil be especially interesting to see if there are any records about why he was in the Gibralta Hospital and if he had been wounded in the battle.

Best of Luck,

Dave

davepat

Hello Dave,

At long last the Nationl Archives at Kew has relaxed its restrictions enough to allow research on a limited basis. I was able to have a researcher search for records on Edward Darcy/Darcey and here is a summary of what I learned. This is probably all that I will be able to find about him. Most of the surviving records that mention him are the muster rolls from the ships he was assigned to. They don't give a lot of detail about the personnel on the ship. Edward did serve on other ships but the records from those ships are not likely to contain any information that would help to identify him and don't seem worthwhile pursuing. 
 
Edward Darcy was born in Oughteragh, Kiltubrid, County Leitrim about
1783. Under the name of Edward Darcey he volunteered to serve in
the British Navy in 1805 and first served on the ship Ceres. On 13
September 1805 he was transferred to HMS Africa.  While serving on HMS
Africa Edward fought at the Battle of Trafalgar on 21 October 1805. He
received an injury during the battle and on 3 December 1805 he
was hospitalized at the navy hospital at Gibraltar where he spent 59
days. He was discharged to HMS San Juan. He was serving on the
HMS Charlotte when he was discharged about 1818 after serving for 13
years. 
 
On 20 July 1820 Edward was examined at the naval hospital in Greenwich,
London for a diseased eye. On 21 February 1821 he was approved for a
pension of 5s.
 
On 6 September 1822 Edward Darcy of Keshcarrigan, Kiltubrid parish,
Leitrim, Ireland petitioned the London Committee for aid for the people
of his parish who were starving. He told the London Committee that he had
spent 13 years in the British Navy and had fought at the Battle of
Trafalgar in 1805. 
 
Edward was petitioning in London for the people of his parish in Ireland
about the same time he was applying for his pension at Greenwich. He would
not likely have made two trips to London.  
 
I have not found any information in Ireland that would identify this particular Edward Darcy.
 
Jim

jtevogt@yahoo.com

Hello Jim,

Many thanks for providing all that information about Edward Darcy that the researcher uncovered for you. It is very interesting to read and must satisfying for you to know there are official records showing that one of your ancestors had fought at the Battle of Trafalgar under the command of Admiral Nelson. This was a major naval engagement in the Napoleonic Wars.

When Edward was born circa 1783 the Irish government had not yet required that births, marriages, and deaths be recorded under a civil registration system. Civil registration began in Ireland in 1845 when the government recorded civil marriages and Protestant marriages. Catholic marriages were not recorded at this time. Civil registration of births, marriages and deaths for all religious denominations commenced in Ireland in 1864.

Before 1864 you have to rely on church baptism, marriage and birth records. Many Catholic and Protestant churches in Ireland do not have registers that go back to circa 1783 when Edward was born.

For instance, the Oughteragh Church of Ireland registers in County Leitrim begin in 1833. The Catholic registers for Oughteragh begin in 1869.

For the Kiltubbrid parish, only Catholic registers are available. They begin in 1841.

Unfortunately, there will not civil registration birth records or baptism records for Edward.

Jim, was Edward Catholic or Protestant?

Do you know if he married, his year of marriage, and the name of the person he married? If he had children do you know their names and the years they were born? Also, do you know the year Edward died. If he died after 1863 there could be a death record for him.

If Edward had been Catholic, there may be baptism records for his children, or more likely grandchildren online that I can access for free, that is, if these children were born in the Klitubbrid parish after 1840. By 1840 Edward would have been 57 years old, if born in 1783.

In doing a little research in Irish land records, I found an Edward, Peter, and Michael “Darcey,” in an agricultural record called the Tithe Applotment Books. The year of the record for the Tithe books is 1833, when Edward would have been 50 years old if he had lived until then.

This record may pertain to Edward and two of his sons, or Edward’s three sons. Your information shows that Edward had settled in the townland of Keshcarrigan, Leitrim. In the tithe record however, the Darceys are leasing farmland in the townland of Leitra, Civil Parish of Kiltubbrid.

The Tithe Applotment Book records were found at the National Archives of Ireland website, and are free to access. You can learn more about the Tithe Applotment Books at the following National Archives of Ireland links:

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/about.jsp
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/aboutmore.jsp

To view the Tithe Applotment Book index for the Darceys in Leitra, go to: https://is.gd/xpIfsm

A copy of the original Tithe Applotment Book entry for the Darceys in Leitra can be accessed at: https://is.gd/lHLnoD

The first townland listed in the Tithe book is Loughconway. The Leitra townland is under that. Peter, Edward, and Michael Darcey are the 4th, 5th, and 6th Occupiers listed under the townland of Leitra.

The are two facing pages of the tithe book. The entry for Edward, if I’m reading it correctly, shows he was leasing 2 perches of meadow; 3 acres of arable land; and 1.2 acres of “Moorey,” land, or moorlands, for a total of 5 acres of land.

Going to the right-facing section of the tithe book, Edward is shown to have paid 4 Shillings and 1 Pence in tithes for the upkeep of the Church of Ireland.

Peter paid 3 Shillings and 7 1/2 Pence in tithes, while Michael paid 2 Shillings and 4 Pence in tithes.

If Edward, Peter, and Michael were Roman Catholic, they would not have been very happy paying tithes to the Church of England.

Jim, do any of your records show if Edward had brothers or sons named Peter and Michael?

For a Google Street View of Leitra, go to: https://is.gd/Db101k

A Google Map shows that Leitra is only 4.3 miles west of Keshcarrigan. See the map at: https://is.gd/dnqcWS

I also accessed an Ordnance Survey Map of Keshcarrigan from the GeoHive website. This map was compiled between 1837 and 1842 and shows there is a Post Office in the town. What this means is that it is possible that Edward gave his address as Keshcarrigan, as this was where he received his mail. In other words, Keshcarrigan would be his postal address.

The Ordnance Survey Map of Keshcarrigan is attached to this reply.

Also attached to this reply is an Ordnance Survey Map of Leitra from the 1837 to 1842 time period.

For the next search I accessed the 1901 census at the National Archives of Ireland website to see if there were any Darceys/Darcys living in Keshcarrigan and in Leitra. None were in Keshcarrigan, but there is one family in Leitra in the 1901 census. This is the family of 31 year old Peter and 28 year old Maryann Darcy and their two children, Mary Ellen and Bridget. Also in the household is Peter’s 63 year old mother Bridget Darcy. The census shows they are the “Residents of a house 7 in Leitra (Moher, Leitrim).”

You can view the 1901 census transcription for the Darcy household at: https://is.gd/GkMK9I

Once the census downloads make sure to click on “Show all information” to view the full census page.

The next link shows there were seven other households counted in Leitra in the 1901 census: https://is.gd/d9A9aT

The Peter Darcy in the 1901 census may be the grandson of the Peter Darcy recorded in the Tithe Applotment Books from the year 1833, 68 years earlier.

Going to the 1911 census I found that 43 year old Peter and 41 year old Mary Anne Darcy now had six children. Also in the household is 68 year old Marget Flynn. She is shown to be Peter’s mother-in-law. She would be Mary Anne’s mother. Peter’s mother Bridget Darcy is not in the household, which is an indication she was deceased by 1911. The census shows the Darcy family were the “Residents of a house 2 in Leitra (Moher, Leitrim).”

The census transcription can be found at: https://is.gd/wcWno7

Once the transcription downloads, click on “Show all information.” On the census line for Mary Anne you’ll see that she and Peter had been married for 13 years and in that time period had six children, with all six children still alive. The six children are in the household with their parents.

What the census also shows is that Peter had married Mary Anne Flynn thirteen years earlier, which places their year of marriage circa 1898.

With this information I found a copy of their original civil registration marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website, which shows that 26 year old Peter Darcy and 24 year old Mary Anne Flynn were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Gowel (Leitrim), on April 28, 1898. At the time of the marriage Peter had been a bachelor and Mary Anne a spinster. Peter’s occupation was farmer. His residence at the time of marriage was Leitra. The marriage record also shows that his father was Patrick Darcy, a farmer who was deceased.

Mary Anne’s residence at the time of marriage was Drumgowna. Her father was Michael Flynn who was deceased. Peter and Mary Anne were married by John Brady, C.C. The initials C.C. stand for “Catholic Curate.” The witnesses to the marriage were Joseph Darcy and Maggie Cullen. Joseph Darcy may have been Peter’s brother. The marriage is Number 112 in the marriage register which you can access at: https://is.gd/JyA6NU

A Google Map shows the locations of Leitra, Keshcarrigan, Drumgowna, and Gowel, where the marriage took place: https://is.gd/gtBI9q

An Ordnance Survey Map from 1907 shows the R.C. Chapel in Gowel is called St. Patrick’s. The map is attached to this reply.

For a Google Street View of St. Patrick’s Church in Gowel, go to: https://is.gd/AozFBs

Jim, in your Darcy research have you come across Pater and Mary Anne Darcy or any of their children? Or have you traced any of your Darcy ancestors to Leitra, Leitrim, just a little over 4 miles west of Keshcarrigan?

Kind Regards,

Dave

davepat

Hi Dave,

Thank you for the reply to my message. You spent quite a bit of time searching for information on my Darcy ancestors and I appreciate it. Your information is very helpful to me. 

My Darcy/Darcey family were all Roman Catholics so there are no early records of the family in Ireland. I suspect that the members of the Darcy/Darcey family that you foumd living in Leitra were related to my family but I haven't found a way to connect them to my family. As far as I have been able to learn all of the living members of my immediate Darcy ancestor family from Leitrim emigrated to America about the time of the famine and shortly thereafter.. There were four siblings who emigrated - Edward Darcy (b. abt. 1819 - d. 5 Dec.1882 in San Francisco); Sarah Jane "Jane" Darcy (b. 18 Sept. 1828 - d. 21 April 1891 in Minnesota); John Darcy (b. abt. 1831 - d. 27 Jan. 1906 in Minnesota); Hugh Darcy (My great-grandfather) (b. 2 Feb. 1835 - d. 25 Oct. 1896 in Minnesota). There may have been other children in the family who did not survive the famine.  As far as I have been able to learn it appears that these four siblings immigrated one at a time as I cannot find any ship passenger records that list more than one Darcy by these names arriving on the same ship. These names were pretty common Irish names in the ship passenger records  so it is difficult to identfy any of them with certainty. It seems that Edward, who was the oldest, arrived first - in either 1845 or 1847. I suspect that he sent money back to Ireland to bring each of his siblings to America. They all lived in New York for a time before traveling west to San Francisco and Minnesota.  I have not found any records that mention what became of their parents and I suspect the parents died during the famine before the children emigrated. 

Jane married Charles Early/Earley in New York.  In an 1884 county history Charles Early said that he and Jane came from the same parish in Ireland. Of the four siblings the death record for Jane was the only one to give the names of the parents. The parents are listed as Hugh Darcy and Sarah. Records show that the parents of Charles Early were Michael Early and Ellen Carrigan/Kerigan. The 1833 Tithe Applotment Records for County Leitrim  show a Hugh Darcey and a Michael Early living in Gowly Townland, which adjoins Keshcarrigan. Sarah Jane Darcy was usually  known as "Jane" but the 1860 and 1870 Federal censuses give her name as Sarah J,  On 5 January 1867 Jane posted an ad in the Boston Pilot under "Missing Friends" searching for information on her brother, Edward Darcy, who she says was "a native of the townland of Gouly, parish of Kiltubut, County of Leitrim" and last heard from living in San Francisco. I think the Hugh Darcey living in Gowly townland in 1833 was the father of the four Darcy siblings  and is my great-great-grandfather who probably died during the famine before his children emigrated to America. 

Edward Darcy/Darcey (Trafalgar) said he was from Keshcarrigan which is next door to Gowly townland. He and Hugh Darcey of Gowly may have been brothers or at least closely related. The British naval records indicate that Edward Darcey (Trafalgar) was born at Oughteragh, County Leitrim which is not far from Keshcarrigan and Gowly townland. Hugh Darcey (Gowly) may have been born at Oughteragh also. It is interesting that the obituary of Edward Darcy (San Francisco) says that he was a native of "Kishcarrigan", County Leitrim, although his sister Jane (Darcy) Early said he was a native of "Gouly" in County Leitrim. 

The name Edward Darcy was a common name in my Darcy family. Both my great-grandfather, Hugh Darcy, and his brother, John Darcy,  named one of their sons Edward Darcy. My uncle Martin Darcy named his son Edward Darcy. 

Edward Darcey (Trafalgar) was in the British navy for 13 years. Edward Darcy (San Francisco) gave his occupation as seaman in the 1860 Federal census. My uncle Martin Darcy, who was born in Minnesota and later lived in Brooklyn, New York, was an engineer on ocean going ships for much of his adult life. His son Edward Darcy, who was born at Brooklyn, NY, worked on ocean going container ships and became a ships captain before he retired. Sailing must run in the Darcy family.

I haven't been able to identify any records about Edward Darcy/Darcey (Trafalgar) that would show if he was ever married or had children. He was probably connected in some way to the Darcy family who lived at Leitra but I haven't found anything to show the connection. Without more information about him I can't identify a death record for him or a marriage record or records of his children or grandchildren. I had hoped that his British naval records would show more information about him that might help to identify him in later years. 

Thank you for your interest in the Darcy family and your many suggestions of records for me to search. I appreciate all the help I can get searching for this family.

Jim

Jim

Thank you Jim for all that very interesting information about the Darcy family in Ireland and the U.S. I have the same challenge as you in that I can’t find the baptism record for my great grandfather John Boylan, who was born in County Cavan circa 1828. I began searching my family history before I was in high school. I began a comprehensive search for my great grandfather over 30 years ago, and have exhausted all the resources available.

I accessed the Tithe Applotment Book entry for Hugh Darcey in Gowley that you mentioned in your reply. There are only 13 Occupiers total recorded in Gowley, including a Mary Darcey and Michael Early, but what caught my attention was the “Observations” in the tithe record that applied to all the occupiers in Gowley. The Observation reads:

“This land surveyed by order of Sir William Gofset (Gosset) as the Tenants alleged it to be tithe free & Refused giving any information Whatever---.”

It sounds like all the occupiers in Gowley did not feel they should have to pay tithes for the upkeep of the Church of England.

Thank you again for writing Jim. If you should learn anything new about Edward Darcy, I’d very much appreciate it if you would pass the information along. I’ve always found it fascinating reading about soldiers and sailors who fought in major battles, and I would say that Trafalgar is right up there in British naval history, along with Yorktown, Gettysburg, the Invasion of Normandy and Iwo Jima in American History.

With Best Wishes,

Dave

davepat

Hi Dave,

Thanks again for responding. If I should learn any more about Edward Darcy I will let you know. A few years ago I was able to visit Gowly townland and walk around the area where my Darcy ancestors had lived. The townland is only about 210 acres so it is not very large. I didn't see any evidence of the homes where the residents in Gowly had lived almost 200 years ago. I did see the remains of a very old open well in the townland and that may have been where my ancestors got their water. 

Jim

Jim

You're welcome Jim.

I found Gowly on an Ordnance Survey Map at the GeoHive website. The map is attached to this reply. The map is from the 1837 to 1842 time period, and shows that structures are located along a north-south road. On the map the townland of Keshkerrigan is in the lower right corner. Toward the lower center right of the map that is another structure situated parallel to the road. Below the name of the town in caps, GOWLY, you'll see what you had mentioned in your reply, in that Gowly is 210 acres (plus 1 rood, and 6 perches in size). I've also attached the same Ordnance Survey Map but with an overall view of Gowly and larger portion of Keshkerrigan, as well as Castle Island and the southern shore of Lough Scur. In addition, attached from GeoHive is a satellite image of Gowly and Keshkerrigan. You can see the north-south road in the satellite view with buildings on either side of the road.

Thank you for writing Jim.

Dave

davepat

Hi David,

Those old maps are very interesting. Thank you. I wonder if those structures along the north-south road could have been the homes of some of the residents. Seems like there should have been more homes for the number of residents in Gowly at that time period. Near the center of the map of Gowly there is a rectangular outline. That is about where the old well is located that I mentioned. The satellite view of Gowly shows the rural road that runs along the south of the township with some farms along the road toward the left side. Near the barn of one of the farms are the remains of an old dolmen. I have photos of the dolmen and the well but I don't know how to show them here. 

I have tried to locate someone with a small drone who would be interested in making a fly-over video of Gowly townland but haven't been able to locate anyone. 

Jim

 

Jim

Hi Jim,

Some of the buildings along the north-south road in Gowly look like they could have been row houses, where more than one family had lived. The same holds true for the few buildings running along the east-west road at the bottom of the map. There also appears to be a building near the rectangular outline toward the center of the map, where you located the well. I believe people in small villages like Gowly were no strangers to living in crowded conditions in 19th century Ireland.

A lot of realtors today do drone flyovers of property. Ireland is a pretty high-tech country, and there may be realtors near Gowly who could do a flyover for you for a price. I found one realtor named REA that has a house for sale in nearby Keshkerrigan, and am wondering if they would be able to do a flyover for you, or give you a reference of someone in the area who has a drone to do the flyover.

You can contact REA at: https://www.realestatealliance.ie/property-for-sale/county-leitrim

Also Jim, if you plan on going to Ireland again in the future you can hire your own drone and do the flyover just the way you want it. There is a company called Drone Works based out of Galway that rents drones, and also has drone pilots that will do flyovers for you. For more information see the following:

https://www.droneworksireland.ie/drone-rental/

https://www.droneworksireland.ie/filming-and-photography/

If Drone Works doesn't have pilots available for flyovers in Leitrim, they may know of someone who does.

Many thanks for writing.

Dave

davepat

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the good suggestions. I sent an email to Drone Works about doing a drone flyover of Gowly townland over the weekend but haven't had a response from them yet. 

When I visited Gowly a few years ago, as I remember it, the area of the townland where the north south road  with the structures is located seemed to be a wooded area now. I didn't have an opportunity to walk the area but that seems to be the most likely place for the inhabitants to be living back in the 1830's and 1840's as that is where the structures are located on the Ordnance Survey Map. If I can get a drone view of that area maybe the remains of some of the old buildings would still be visible. 

I read the other day that on July 19 Ireland will be opening again to American tourists - if airline flights will even be available yet. 

Jim

Jim

Hello Jim,

I believe Aer Lingus is flying to Ireland. Other airlines may also be flying there as well. You can call Aer Lingus at 1 (800) 474-7424, for the availability of flights from your nearest airport to Shannon or Dublin. To read about the Covid-19 Travel Requirements Aer Lingus has, go to:
https://www.aerlingus.com/support/covid19-information/country-by-countr…

This summer may be a great time to fly and stay in Ireland, as the airlines, car rental companies and B&Bs in Ireland must have lost millions, if not hundreds of millions in Euros because of the Covid. Check a few airlines Jim, not just Aer Lingus, as you never know what deals are out there. The same with car companies in Ireland. I know when I traveled extensively to Ireland in the 1990s and early 2000s, I used to ask for the availability of a standard shift car if I wasn't going to do any city driving, as the cost for a standard was about $100 less per week than an automatic. Shifting with the left hand though, took a little getting used to, and I'd grind the gears a little the first day on the road. I'm not even sure if you can rent a stick shift anymore in Ireland. But they are fun to drive on the open road.

Please let me know how you're progressing with the drones and travel to Ireland.

All the Best,

Dave

davepat

Dave, I am not having any luck in locating someone with a drone to do a flyover of Gowly townland. I never did get a reply from Drone Works. I corresponded with a woman in Keshcarrigan about Gowly townland but she wasn't able to give me much help. I need to track down an old timer from the area with a good memory of times past.

I think we are going to wait until next year to try to get to Ireland again. Things are just starting to open up again over there and by next year it should be much better. When I rented  a car over there in 2003 I had an automatic. I drove all over without having any problem but I didn't try driving in the city center of Dublin. Trying to follow the street names in that area was hard enough just walking.

Jim

Jim

Hi Jim,

I don't blame you for wanting to wait another year before going to Ireland. I still think you'll still be able to get good deals on flights and airfare, as well as B&Bs next year.

Concerning drones, have you thought about getting a medium priced drone with camera, display and GPS, and then taking that to Ireland when you go next year. I'll bet you could buy a drone in the states for as much or even less than what it would cost you to hire a drone pilot in Ireland. With your own drone, you can set different flight patterns over Gowly just the way you'd want them. The one thing you'd have to be concerned about is charging the drone batteries, as Ireland has a different electrical system than ours, ( I think theirs is 230), but you could always purchase a universal adaptor to charge the drone batteries in Ireland.

The other thing is you'll have more fun doing your own flyovers than having someone doing it for you. You'd also have a whole year to get accustomed to how the drown reacts by practicing flyovers at home. Your own drone may be something to consider for now and for the future. See: https://is.gd/Bll31d

Thanks again for writing Jim.

Dave

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