Hello Hannah,
I found the civil registration birth records for Patrick, Maggie and Mary Devereaux, only the first name of their mother is Catherine. Her maiden name was Shine. The 1911 census has her first name as Mary, but this would not be uncommon as Mary could have been her middle name, which she also might have used in place of Catherine.
In any event I’ve attached the birth records of all three children to this reply. The birth records were found at the free irishgenealogy.ie website.
The birth record for Patrick shows he was born in Ballylooby, County Tipperary, on 11 March 1903. His father is Thomas Devereaux, a farmer residing in Ballylooby. Patrick’s mother is Catherine Devereaux, formerly Shine. Thomas, the father, reported the birth to the local registrar, Henry Cusack, who recorded the birth in the Clogheen Registration District on 20 March 1903. Patrick’s birth record is the first one shown in the attached register at Number 314.
The twins Margaret and Mary Devereaux were born in West Burgess, Tipperary, on 20 December 1905. Their father is Thomas Burgess, a farmer residing in West Burgess. Their mother is Catherine Devereaux, formerly Shine. Thomas reported the births to the Registrar, Henry Cusack, who recorded the births in the Clogheen Registration District on 30 January 1906. The births are at Numbers 155 and 156 in the attached register.
THE MARRIAGE OF THOMAS DEVEREAUX AND CATHERINE SHINE
I did not find the birth records for any more children after Margaret and Mary, but I did uncover the civil registration marriage record for Thomas Devereaux and Catherine Shine. They were married in the Catholic Chapel of “Duhil,” Tipperary, on 2 February 1901. In some records you’ll see this location as Duhill, or Doughill, Castlegrace, Tipperary.
The marriage record shows that Thomas was a 32 year old bachelor when he married, and that his occupation was farmer. His residence at the time of the marriage was West Burgess, Ballylooby, Cahir. His father was Thomas Devereaux, who had been a farmer but who was deceased at the time of the marriage.
At the time she married Catherine was of “full age,” and a “spinster,” meaning she had not been married before. Her actual age is not recorded. She was also a farmer, whose residence at the time of marriage was Ballylaffin, Ardfinnan, Tipperary. Her father was Thomas Shine, who was deceased but who had been a farmer.
The priest who married Thomas and Catherine was Laurence Ormond. The witnesses to the marriage were Patrick Barrett and Bridget Long. The marriage is Number 58 in the attached register.
A Google Map shows that the Catholic Church in Duhill, Tipperary is called St. John the Baptist, and is located 4 miles southeast of Ballylooby. See the map at: https://is.gd/hRJBlu
For a Google Street View of the St. John the Baptist Church and cemetery in Duhill, go to: https://is.gd/Wzig70
For another Google Street View of the church from a different angle, see: https://is.gd/l5g6Cf
Irish tradition holds that marriages take place in the bride’s parish, which means the Duhill Cahpel may have been the parish church for Catherine Shine and her family in the past.
The marriage record shows that at the time he married Thomas Devereaux was living in the town of West Burgess. A Google Map shows that West Burgess, by the shortest route, 3.7 miles north from St John the Baptist Church in Duhill: https://is.gd/HIrRUN
West Burgess is the same location as Burgess West, where the Devereaux family were recorded in the 1911 census.
For a Google Street View of West Burgess, see: https://is.gd/KK4fbX
Catherine Shine, at the time she married had been living in Ballylaffin. A Google Map shows that Ballylaffin, by the shortest route, is 20.6 miles northeast of St. John the Baptist Church in Duhill: https://is.gd/lquvtn
For a Google Street View of Ballylaffin, see: https://is.gd/UoDQds
ST JOHN THE BAPTIST CHURCH
I found information about St, John the Baptist Church at the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage/Buildings of Ireland website, which places the church in Castlegrace, next to Duhill. According to the Buildings of Ireland site, the church was constructed in 1829. To read about the architectural details and to view a slide show of the church, go to the Buildings of Ireland link at: https://is.gd/6eV9rq
Because the church is very old I knew it would be included on maps from the 19th and early 20th centuries. You can view the church on an Ordnance Survey Map from the 1888 to 1913 time period at the GeoHive website link at: http://bit.ly/2TsgOm9
Once at the map make sure to click on “Close menu” to view the full map. On the map you’ll see the church and graveyard are north of the Castlegrace School.
The church is also included on an Ordnance Survey Map from the 1837 to 1842 time period. You can view this map at the GeoHive link at: http://bit.ly/3axoGsl
On this map the church is referenced as the “R.C. Chapel,” just north of the National School.
As noted earlier,Thomas Devereaux and Catherine Shine were married on 2 February 1901, which means there was the likelihood they would have been recorded in the 1901 census, enumerated on 31 March of that year.
I went to the National Archives of Ireland website for the 1901 census, and found that 33 year old Thomas Devereaux and 26 year old “Katee” Devereaux, were living in “Burges” West. Thomas is shown to be a farmer who could read and write and speak both Irish and English. Katee is shown to be able to read and write. In the household with them is Thomas’s sister, 23 year old Mary Devereaux, who was not married. Also in the household was 25 year old Maurice Morrissey, a farm servant. All in the household were born in County Tipperary.
You can view a transcription of the 1901 census from the National Archives of Ireland link at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Tubrid/Burge…
To view a copy of the original 1901 census of the Devereaux household, see: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003912210/
THOMAS DEVEREAUX
At the time of his marriage on 2 February 1901 Thomas Devereaux is recorded as being 32 years old. But almost 2 months later, when the 1901 census was taken, Thomas is shown to be 33 years old. In subtracting his age of 32 in the marriage record and 33 in the census record from the year 1901, Thomas would have been born circa 1868-1869.
Thomas’s marriage record also shows that his residence was West Burgess and that the name of his deceased father was Thomas. The 1901 census shows his residence was Burges West.
There should be a birth record for him, as the government in Ireland commenced with the recording of births, marriages, and deaths for all religious denominations in 1864.
I looked for Thomas’s birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website for the span of years 1865 to 1870 in case his age was off in the marriage and census records. I also looked for his birth record showing that his father was Thomas and that his residence was Burgess West or West Burgess, or at least a town close by. I found his birth record showing Thomas Devereaux was born on 10 January 1867 in Burgess, Parish of “Tubrid.” The Catholic Parish of Ballylooby was located within the Civil Parish of Tubbrid.
The birth record further shows that Thomas’s father was a Farmer also named Thomas Devereaux whose residence was Burgess. Thomas’s mother is Catherine Devereaux, formerly Barrett. Thomas, the father, reported the birth to the local registrar, whose name appears to be John Stokes. He recorded the birth in the Clogheen Registration District on 18 January 1867. Thomas’s birth record is at Number 165 in the attached birth register.
I next found the civil birth record for Thomas’s brother, Patrick at the irishgenealogy.ie website. Patrick was born in Burgess, Parish of Tubrid, on 6 May 1868. His father is Thomas Devereaux, a farmer living in Burgess. Patrick’s mother is Catherine Devereaux, formerly Barrett. Thomas, the father, reported the birth to the registrar, John Stokes, who recorded the birth in the Clogheen Registration District on 15 May 1868. Patrick’s birth is at Number 466 in the attached register.
The last civil registration birth record I found is for Mary Devereaux, who was born in Ballylooby, Parish of Tubrid, on 28 April 1871. Her father is Thomas Deveraux, a farmer residing in Ballylooby. Mary’s mother is Catherine Devereaux, formerly Barrett. Thomas reported the birth to the registrar, John Stokes, who recorded the birth in the Clogheen Registration District on 12 May 1871. Mary’s birth is the last entry in the attached register at Number 143.
Mary Devereaux is in the 1911 census in the household of her brother Thomas and sister-in-law Mary and their children in Burgess West, Tubbrid.
BAPTISMS
After locating the civil birth records for Thomas, Patrick, and Mary Devereaux, I looked for their baptisms. I found baptism transcriptions as well as copies of their original Ballylooby baptism records at the Find My Past (FMP) website. FMP is traditionally a subscription and pay-as-you-go website, but does not charge to search for Irish Catholic baptisms, church marriages, or available burial transcriptions.
Included with each baptism, marriage, or burial transcription is a link that will take you to the original parish church record. The Catholic Church records are held by the National Library of Ireland (NLI), which is headquartered in Kildare Street, Dublin.
To look for Catholic Parish register transcriptions at FMP, you first have to register with the site. Registration is free.
The search engine for the FMP baptism transcriptions can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/jnmqmuv
The search engine for Catholic marriages can be accessed at: http://tinyurl.com/jzylkjy
For Catholic Parish burial transcriptions go to the search engine at: http://tinyurl.com/j9qe5p9
Keep in mind however that not all Catholic Church Parishes in Ireland kept burial records.
The FMP Ballylooby Catholic Church transcription for Thomas Devereaux’s 1867 baptism can be found at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4791335
The transcription doesn’t give the residence of the family but does show that Thomas’s parents were Thomas Devereaux and Margaritae Barrett. Margaritae is the Latin spelling for Margaret.
To access a copy of the original Ballylooby Catholic Church baptism record for Thomas, go to the NLI link at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632125#page/36/mode/1up
There are two facing pages to the register. Thomas’s baptism is the last entry on the right-hand page.
You can enlarge the page by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.
The handwriting in the baptism register can be tricky to decipher. Below the names of Thomas and his parents, you’ll see a line that begins with the initials “Sp.” This stands for Sponsors, or godparents. The godparents appear to be Moloney and Maria Burke, which is an indication that this couple were married.
To the extreme right of Maria Burke’s name you’ll see another name. This is the name of the priest who baptized Thomas. His last name appears to be Walshe.
The 1 May 1868 FMP baptism transcription for “Patritium” (Patrick) Devereaux can be viewed at the following: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F6456431
A copy of Patrick’s original baptism record is on the left-hand register page, 2nd from the last entry on the page at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632125#page/45/mode/1up
His godparents are Patritium Devereaux and Catherina Barrett. Patrick Devereaux may have been Thomas’s brother, while Catherina Barrett may have been Margaret’s sister. The priest who baptized Patrick was G. Shanahan.
The 30 April 1871 baptism transcription for Mariam (Mary) Devereaux can be viewed at the following FMP link: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4791430
Her mother’s maiden name was transcribed by a FMP researcher as “Banet,” rather than Barrett.
Mary baptism is on the right-hand register page, 2nd entry up from the bottom.
This record can be a little tricky to find as there is very little space between Mary’s baptism, and the baptism record before it. The handwriting also leaves a lot to be desired Mary’s godfather is Thomas. I could not make out Thomas’s last name. Mary’s godmother is Maria Devereaux, who may have been Thomas Devereaux’s sister.
THE MARRIAGE RECORDS FOR THOMAS DEVEREAUX AND MARGARET BARRETT
For the next search I looked for the FMP church marriage transcription for Thomas Devereaux and Margaret Barrett. Their son Thomas was born in 1867, and so I looked for the church marriage for Thomas and Margaret between 1860 and 1867 and found it.
The couple were married in the Catholic Chapel of Ballylooby on 23 February 1865. In this record however, Margaret’s first name is recorded as “Mary,” rather than Margaret. Mary may have been her middle name, or the priest who recorded the marriage made a mistake by writing Mary and not Margaret. Her last name is Barrett. You can view the FMP transcription at: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FMAR%2F1058530%2F1
A copy of the original marriage record for Thomas and “Mary” is on the left-hand register page, 3rd marriage down from the top at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632123#page/106/mode/1up
There appears to have been only one witness to the marriage. This is Catherine Barrett, who may have been Margaret’s sister. The name of the priest who performed the marriage is also recorded. His name looks like Step. M. Lonergan. Step is short for Stephen.
I then located the civil marriage record for Thomas Devereaux and Margaret Barrett, confirming they were married in the Ballylooby Catholic Chapel on 23 February 1865. The marriage record is attached.
Both were of “full age” at the time of the marriage. Thomas had been a bachelor and Margaret a spinster. Thomas is shown to have been a farmer, while Margaret is a farmer’s daughter. Thomas’s address at the time of marriage was Derravoher. His father was Thomas Devereaux, a farmer.
Margaret’s residence at the time of marriage is difficult to make out. But it is Upper Quarry Hole. Her father is Patrick Barrett, a farmer. The parish priest who married Thomas and Margaret was Stephen M. Lonergan, who also sigbed the Ballylooby Catholic Church register of marriage.
Margaret signed the marriage register with an X, which was witnessed by Timothy Cronin. The witnesses to the marriage were Thomas Devereaux and Kate Barrett. Kate also signed the register with an X, which was likewise witnessed by Timothy Cronin. Having signed the marriage register with an X means that Margaret Barrett and Kate Barrett were illiterate.
A Google Map shows that Derravoher, where Thomas lived, and Quarry Hole, where Margaret lived, are 2.6 miles from each other near Ballylooby and the Burgesses. See the map at: https://is.gd/jek528
For a Google Street View of the road leading to Derravoher, go to: https://is.gd/Gg9ZgQ
For a Google Street View of Quarry Hole, go to: https://is.gd/Qged1M
Quarry Hole is located in, or near the townland of Whitechurch. See: https://is.gd/GenuPA
Whitechurch was also a civil parish.
The church where Thomas Devereaux and Margaret Barrett married in Ballylooby is called the Church of Our Lady and St. Kieran.
A Google Map shows the location of the church in Ballylooby: https://is.gd/rCY9D2
For a Google Street View of the church and graveyard, go to: https://is.gd/lDewMQ
The Church of Our Lady and St. Kieran looks old, but I wanted to find out how old, and so I located information about it at the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage/Buildings of Ireland website, which shows the church was constructed circa 1820. The Buildings of Ireland website places the church in a section of Ballylooby called Knockane (Puttoge). See the Google Map at: https://is.gd/DaZmSs
For a description and slide show of the church go to the Buildings of Ireland link at: https://is.gd/ndf7Kb
The Catholic Church in Ballylooby labeled the “R.C. Chapel in an Ordnance Survey Map from the 1837 to 1842 time period, which you can view at the GeoHive website link at: http://bit.ly/2TOrXwv
Another Ordnance Survey Map from the 1888 to 1913 time period now calls the church “St. Kiean’s R.C. Chapel.” See: http://bit.ly/2wB3suX
Because Irish marriages traditionally took place in the bride’s parish, The Church of Our Lady and St. Kiernan was likely the parish church of Margaret Barrett and her family.
THOMAS DEVEREAUX
Knowing that Thomas Devereaux was married in 1865, I wanted to see if I could locate his baptism record in Ballylooby. I figured he would have been born sometime in the 1830s or 1840s but can’t be sure of his exact date of birth. The marriage record shows his father was Thomas.
I looked for his baptism for all years before 1850 in Ballylooby but didn’t find it in that Catholic Parish. The only Thomas Devereaux whose baptism is recorded in the Ballylooby Catholic Church for all years is the 1867 baptism of Thomas Devereaux, son of Thomas Devereaux and Margaret Barrett.
The FMP website shows the baptisms of four children named Thomas Devereux/Devereaux, son of Thomas, baptized in County Tipperary who would have been old enough to marry in 1865.
The earliest of these is the 1819 Galbally and Aherlow Catholic parish baptism for Thomas Devereux, son of Thomas Devereux and Margaret Lynas.
The 1823 Ardfinnan Catholic parish baptism for Thomas Devereux, son of Thomas Devereux and Elena Dooling.
The 1833 Mullinahone Catholic parish baptism for Thomas Devereaux, son of Thomas Devereaux and Mary Gleeson.
The 1839 Tipperary Catholic parish baptism of Thomas Devereux, son of Thomas Devereux and Catherine Farrell.
Without knowing his mother’s first and maiden names, there is no way of determining which, if any of the four baptisms listed above, pertains to the Thomas Devereaux who would marry Margaret Barrett in the Ballylooby Catholic Church in 1865.
GRIFFITHS VALUATION
At the time he married in 1865, Thomas had been living in Derravoher. I now wanted to see if I could locate a Thomas Devereaux leasing property in Derravoher, civil parish of Tubridd. To do this I looked for him in an Irish property tax record known as Griffiths Valuation. Griffiths Valuation was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for Derravoher and surrounding towns in Tipperary South, was completed by the year 1852.
Unlike a census, Griffiths Valuation did not enumerate individual members of a family, such as husband, wife, and children in a household residence. Those named in the valuation were individuals who paid to lease property, such as land, houses, and outbuildings. Each person who paid to lease the property was called an “Occupier.” The other person listed in Griffiths Valuation was the person who owned the property, or who worked as the middleman for the owner. This person was called the “Immediate Lessor.”
You can access Griffiths Valuation transcriptions and original copies for free at the askaboutireland website link at: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
I found a Thomas “Deveraue” in Griffiths Valuation Leasing property in Derravoher, though I don’t know if this was the Thomas Devereaux who would go on to marry Margaret Barrett in 1865, or Thomas’s father, also named Thomas Devereaux.
See the Griffiths Valuation transcription below for Thomas Deveraue:
No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 19
Civil Parish: Tubbrid
Townland: Derravoher
Occupier: Thomas Deveraue
Immediate Lessor: Lord Waterpark
Description of Tenement: House, offices & land
Area of Land: 8 Acres, 0 Roods, 18 Perches
Rateable Annual Valuation of Land: 7 Pounds, 5 Shillings
Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: 1 Pound, 10 Shillings
Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 8 Pounds, 15 Shillings
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Griffiths Valuation shows that Thomas Deveraue leased a house, offices, and over 8 acres of land from an Immediate Lessor named Lord Waterpark, who was probably the owner of the property. The land was valued at 7 Pounds and 5 Shillings, while the house and offices were valued at 1 Pound and 10 Shillings. The total valuation for the lease was 8 Pounds and 15 Shillings. Thomas would have paid a percentage of the value toward the tax.
An office in a Griffiths Valuation record pertains to outbuildings. These could be barns, stables, blacksmith shops, piggeries, etc. The map number 19 at the top of the valuation entry for Thomas, refers to the location of his lease on an Ordnance Survey Map compiled before the valuation took place. The Ordnance Survey Maps that accompanying Griffiths Valuation locations are much like the 1837 to 1842 Ordnance Survey Map you saw earlier for Ballylooby, the difference being the map of Ballylooby does not have the Griffiths property location numbers labeled on them
The Griffiths Valuation Ordnance Survey Map of Derravoher can be accessed from the askaboutireland website. I accessed the map and found map reference 9. But, I have never been able to link or attach these maps to replies such as this, but can show you where Thomas’s lease was on the similar Ordnance Survey Map of Derravoher from Geohive. See the map at: http://bit.ly/2TOFCUj
Thomas’s lease would have been located approximately where you see the four fields in the center of the map. The initials “osi” you see on the map stand for Ordnance Survey Ireland, and were probably imprinted on the map by the Valuation Office, Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin.
MARGARET BARRETT
Hannah, I see your last name is Barrett, and so it appears that the 1865 marriage between Thomas Devereaux and Margaret Barrett may be the connection you are looking for. This prompted me to concentrate on looking for more information about the Barrett side, first by seeing if I could find Margaret’s baptism record in the Ballylooby Catholic Chapel.
Margaret had married Thomas Devereaux in 1865. The civil marriage record shows that she was of “full age,” meaning over 21. If this is accurate, she would have been born sometime before 1845. Her residence at the time of marriage was Upper Quarry Hole.
In addition, Margaret and Thomas, as far as I could tell, only had three children, including Thomas, born in 1867; Patrick born in 1868; and Mary, born in 1871. Having only three children may be an indication that Margaret was older when she married, perhaps in her 30s.
There will not be a civil birth record for her as civil registration of births began in 1864 in Ireland. I looked for Margaret’s Ballylooby Catholic baptism transcription at the FMP website for the years 1825 to 1845. She would be the daughter of Patrick Barrett, as Patrick is recorded as her father in the 1865 marriage record.
I initially did not find Margaret’s baptism transcription at FMP, but after looking for her under variations of the surname Barrett (Barette), (Barrette) (Barrete) (Barrett), etc, I found what I believe to be her baptism transcription, which gives her name as Margaritam Banet. She was baptized in Ballylooby on 15 August 1834. Her father is Patrick. Her mother is Ellenae (Ellen) Donnell. You can view the transcription at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4781915
A copy of Margaret’s original baptism record is the 8th entry down the right-hand register page at:
https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632122#page/81/mode/1up
The handwriting in this register is not the best. For example, Margaret’s father’s name looks like “Cathien” rather than Patrick, but is actually “Patricci.” The last name does look like Banet, but is actually Barrett. The godparents are James Barrett and Margt (Margaret) Donnell. The name of the priest who baptized her was P. ODonnell
I’ve transcribed baptism below as well as I can interpret it:
B of Margaritam filiam Patrick Barrett
Ellenae Donnell. James Barrett Margt Donnell P. ODonnell
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Filiam is the Latin word for daughter.
Ellen’s name begins on the next line with the godparents, James Barrett and Margaret Donnell.
Before locating the baptism record for Margaret Barret I hadn’t found what the name of her mother was, only her father Patrick, who is recorded in Margaret’s marriage to Thomas Devereaux. This means I can’t be 100 percent certain that the Ballylooby baptism for Margaret is the Margaret Barrett in your line, though it’s entirely possible she is.
I next looked for but did not find a marriage for Patrick Barrett and Ellen Donnell in the Ballylooby Catholic Church or in any other Catholic Church in Tipperary and the country as a whole.
The Ballylooby Catholic Church baptisms and marriages go back to the year 1828, which means that there would be no marriage record for Patrick Barrett and Ellen Donnell if they married prior to that year. See the National Library of Ireland link at: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1094
GRIFFITHS VALUATION
I searched Griffiths Valuation for a location called Quarry Hole to see if a Patrick Barrett had leased property there, but I didn’t find a Griffiths Valuation entry for anyone living in Quarry Hole or Upper Quarry Hole.
Quarry Hole, which I believe was in the civil parish of Whitechurch, was not in the civil parish of Tubbrid, like Ballylooby was. The Whitechurch civil parish was close to Ballylooby, Derravoher, and Burgess West, or West Burgess as it’s called on Google Maps. See: https://is.gd/kYhSJ0
Griffiths Valuation shows that an Occupier named Patrick Barrett leased property in two townlands within the civil parish of Whitechurch. These townlands are Poulaculleare and Scartnaglorane. I believe however that these Griffiths entries pertain to the same Occupier named Patrick Barrett and not two different men with the same name, as these two places border one another.
Patrick Barrett’s holdings in Poulaculleare include four different properties, with land, house, and offices at Map References 7 A, B, C, and D. The Immediate Lessor was William Walpole.
I haven’t transcribed these Poulaculleare holdings, but have described them below:
At Map Reference 7 A, Patrick leased over 1 acre of land valued at 6 Shillings.
At Map Reference 7B, Patrick leased a house, offices, and over 4 acres of land. The land was valued at 1 Pound and 12 Shillings, while the house and offices were valued at 1 Pound.
At Map Reference 7 C, Patrick leased over 8 acres of land valued at 5 Pounds and 10 Shillings.
At Map reference 7 D, Patrick leased over 2 acres of land valued at 1 Pound, 2 Shillings.
The total value for Patrick’s lease was 9 Pounds and 10 Shillings, of which he would have paid a percentage toward the tax.
Several other Barretts leased property in Poulaculleare, including Margaret Barrett, at Map Reference 8 A, B, C, D, and E. She leased a house and land on one parcel, and land on the remaining four parcels for a total value of 6 Pounds and 15 Shillings.
A Daniel Barrett leased land at Map Reference 10 A, B, and C, for a total value of 7 Pounds, and also leased a house, offices and garden at Map Reference 11 b for a total value 1 Pound and 3 Shillings.
At Map Reference 11 a Michael Barrett leased a house and land for a total value of 2 Pounds and 10 Shillings.
William Barrett leased a house and land and two other parcels of land for a total value of 3 Pounds and 10 Shillings.
The Patrick Barrett leasing property in Poulaculleare may have been Margaret’s father while the other Barretts were likely related to her as well.
In the next town over in Scartnaglorane, Patrick Barrett leased two parcels of land at Map Reference 11 A and 11 B. he did not lease a house in Scartnaglorane. I believe Patrick farmed this land but lived in Poulaculleare.
Also leasing property in Scartnaglorane was Thomas Barrett. He leased a house and land at Map Reference 9 A, and land at map reference 9 B. The total value of his leases came to 1 Pound.
You can see the locations of Poulaculleare and Scartnaglorane on an Ordnance Survey Map from the 1837 to 1842 time period at the following GeoHive link: http://bit.ly/2TLkMW5
Once at the map make sure to click on “Close menu to view the full map. Poulacleare is located in the center bottom of the map above the letter H in Whitechurch while Scartnagloane can be found in the upper left to center of the map. You can enlarge the map, and pan the map to move north, south, east and west.
Though not labeled on the map you can also see the location of Quarry Hole on the Ordnance Survey Map at: http://bit.ly/3cIpzA2
Quarry Hole will be in the center of the map in the green shaded line, just above and to the right of the osi label. This is where Margaret Barrett was living before she married Thomas Devereaux. If you look closely you can see little box shapes in the green line. One of these was likely the house where Margaret was living in 1865.
You can see the same area and the houses more clearly above the osi label on a black and white Ordnance Survey Map from the 1888 to 1913 time period at: http://bit.ly/3ayVAZJ
If you drag the map downward with your mouse you’ll head north. Eventually you will come to Poulaculleare.
CATHERINE SHINE
Going back full swing to the beginning of this reply you saw that Thomas Devereaux had married Catherine Shine in the Catholic Chapel of “Duhil” on 2 February 1901. At the time she married Catherine was living in Ballylaffin, Ardfinnan. Her f ather was Thomas Shine, who was deceased. Catherine’s husband Thomas was 32 years old according to the marriage record, which means there’s the possibility that Catherine was a little older too when she married.
The marriage record does not give the name of Catherine’s mother.
I looked for Catherine’s birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found it. She was born in Ballylaffylaffin, Parish of Tubrid, on 24 January 1872. Her father is Thomas Shine, a farmer residing in Ballylaffin. Her mother is Mary Shine, formerly Anglum, or Anglim, a last name which I haven’t seen often in many years of Irish genealogical research.
Thomas Shine reported the birth to the registrar, P.B. Stafford, who recorded the birth in the Clogheen registration district on February 6, 1872. Catherine’s birth is the first entry at Number 48 in the attached register.
I also found the civil registration marriage record for Thomas Shine and Mary Anglim. They were married in the Catholic Chapel of Ballylooby on February 2, 1869. Both were of “full age” when they married. Thomas is shown to have been a bachelor and a farmer, and Mary a spinster with no occupation at the time of marriage. The residence of both was Ballylaffin. Thomas’s father is recorded as Thomas Shine, a farmer. Mary’s father is Patrick Anglim, also a farmer. The priest who married Thomas and Mary was Pierse Heffernan.
The name of one of the witnesses to the marriage was Thomas Shine. The second witness was Bridget Lonergan who signed the marriage register with an X that was witnessed by Timothy Cronin. The marriage was recorded in the Clogheen registration district by the registrar, John Stokes. The marriage record is attached to this reply and is the last record in the register.
A Google Map shows that Ballylaffin, where both Thomas and Mary were living at the time of marriage, and the Catholic Chapel of Ballylooby, are 18.9 miles apart: https://is.gd/ZPrWdT
For a Google Street View of Ballylaffin, go to: https://is.gd/V2vuor
I also found the civil birth records for 4 more children of Thomas Shine and Mary Anglim at irishgenealogy.ie. These children and their years of birth are below. I’ve also included Catherine’s again so that you can see the full chronology of the Shine birth records:
Edward, 1870
Catherine, 1872
Patrick, 1874
Thomas, 1878
James, 1881
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All the children were born in Ballylaffin, and all the birth records are attached to this reply.
After locating the birth records I went to the FMP website where I uncovered the Ballylooby Catholic Church baptism transcriptions for Edward, Catherine, Patrick, and Thomas. I did not find a baptism for James, as the Ballylooby baptisms are only available until 9 January 1881. James was born on 20 April 1881.
The FMP baptism transcription for Edward can be found at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4426893
He was baptized on 6 February 1870. The first names of Edward and his parents are in Latin. Mariae’s last name is spelled “Anglum.”
A copy of the original Ballylooby baptism record is the first entry at the top of the right-hand register page at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632125#page/64/mode/1up
The handwriting in this record is very hard to read. The name of Edward’s godfather appears to be John Shine. The first name of the godmother is Brigida, but I could not make out her last name. The name of the priest who baptized Edward looks like Joanum (John) Walshe.
Catherine Shine was baptized on 21 January 1872. Her FMP transcription can be viewed at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F5968848
A copy of the original Ballylooby baptism record for Catherine is the last entry on the left-hand register page at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632125#page/86/mode/1up
Her godfather is James Burke. Her godmother is Catherine Coneen. The name of the priest who baptized Catherine looks like T. Burke.
Patrick Shine was baptized on 10 December 1874. His baptism transcription is at: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4426967
Patrick’s original Ballylooby baptism record is the 2nd to the last entry on the right-hand register page at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632125#page/112/mode/1up
The godfather is Patrick Mullony. The first name of the godmother is Margaret. Her last name could be Leahy. The residence of the family is Ballylaffin.
There is a notation in the baptism record in Latin, which states that Patrick Shine and Bridget Ryan were married in Duhill on 22 February 1927. The note was written by M. Walshe, Parochus. Parochus can have more than one meaning in Latin, such as “emissary,” but in this case I believe it means pastor. In other words, the note was written by Pastor M. Walshe.
I found the marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website which confirms the notation by Pastor M.Walshe, showing that Patrick Shine, a bachelor of Ballylaffin, and Bridget Ryan, a spinster of Scart, were married in the Catholic Church of Duhill on February 22, 1927. Patrick’s father is recorded as Thomas Shine, a farmer. Bridget’s father was a farmer named Daniel Ryan. One of the witnesses was Thomas Shine, who may have been Patrick’s brother. The second witness was Ellen Ryan, who may have been Bridget’s sister.
The marriage record is attached and is the first entry in the register at Number 239.
Patrick, who had not been married before, would turn 53 years old in December 1927.
Next, the FMP transcription for Thomas Shine shows he was baptized on 11 February 1878:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F4791577
A copy of his original Ballylooby Catholic Church baptism record for Thomas Shine is the 2nd entry down from the top of the right-hand register page at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632125#page/141/mode/1up
The names of the godparents look like Thomas Mullany and Maria Shine. The residence of Thomas and his parents is Ballylaffin.
Pastor M. Walshe also wrote a notation in Latin accompanying this baptism record. He wrote that Thomas Shine and a lady named Condon, whose first name I couldn’t decipher, but whose middle name was Maria, were married on 1 February 1927. I couldn’t read with clarity where the marriage took place, though it looks as if it is a place called Mallory, or Mellory.
I went back to the irishgenealogy.ie website where I found the civil registration marriage record for Thomas Shine, of Knockfee, Cahir, and Jean Mary Condon, of West Street, Tallow. They were married in the Roman Catholic Church of Mt. Mellory, Cappoquin, on 1 February 1927. This marriage took place three weeks before Patrick Shine and Bridget Ryan were married in Duhill.
The marriage record for Thomas and Jean shows they were of full age at the time of marriage, and that Thomas had been a bachelor and Jean a spinster. Thomas’s occupation is farmer of Knockfee, Cahir. His father was Thomas Shine, a farmer who was deceased.
No occupation is recorded for Jean. Her address is again recorded as West Street, Tallow. Her father was John Condon, who was a farmer and who was also deceased. The priest who married Thomas and Jean was F.C. Prendergast. The witnesses to the marriage were Thomas Keating and Marian Forrest. The marriage record is attached.
Knockfee, Cahir, where Thomas was living would be in Tipperary, though I couldn’t locate Knockfee on a Google Map. I did however find “Knockfeagh Hill,” in the town of Ballylegan on an ordnance Survey Map from the 1837 to 1842 time period. You can view this map at the GeoHive link: http://bit.ly/39CoacG
A Google Map shows that Ballylegan House, by the shortest route is 2.9 miles east of Cahir, Tipperary: https://is.gd/dA3Nue
Coincidentally, I also discovered that a man named Tom Shine owns a landscaping company called Knockfee Farm Ltd. This comes from the linkedin website at: https://ie.linkedin.com/in/tom-shine-36836364
The bizireland website shows that the Ballylegan House, as shown on the Google Map, is the location of Knockfee Farm, Ltd.: https://www.bizireland.com/knockfee-farm-limited
Tom Shine, who owns the landscaping company may be a direct descendant of Thomas Shine and Jean Mary Condon, of West Street, Tallow.
Tallow is in County Waterford, and is 25.8 miles south of Cahir Tipperary, according to a Google Map: https://is.gd/wdNORk
Another Google Map shows the location of West Street in Tallow: https://is.gd/9srCKh
For a Google Street View of West Street, Tallow, Wateford, see: https://is.gd/nBKEk8
The marriage record for Thomas Shine and Jean Mary Condon shows they were married in the Church of Mt. Mellory, Cappoquin. I believe this church is the Mount Mellory Abbey, or monastery, which you can view in Ordnance Survey Map from GeoHive at the following links: http://bit.ly/2Iwicy8 and http://bit.ly/2VWgJZR
For a Google Map of Cappoquin and Mount Mellory, go to: https://is.gd/Cyq2X7
To read more about the Mount Mellory go to the abbey website links at:
https://www.mountmellerayabbey.org/
https://www.mountmellerayabbey.org/history/story/history-of-the-abbey
This reply contains 15 attachments
Patrick Devereaux 1903 birth
Margaret and Mary Devereaux 1905 births
Devereaux and Shine 1901 marriage
Thomas Devereaux 1867 birth
Patrick Devereaux 1868 birth
Mary Devereaux 1871 birth
Devereaux and Barrett 1865 marriage
Catherine Shine 1872 birth
Shine and Anglim 1869 marriage
Edward Shine 1870 birth
Patrick shine 1874 birth
Thomas Shine 1878 birth
James Shine 1881 birth
Shine and Ryan 1927 marriage
Shine and Condon 1927 marriage
All the Best,
Dave Boylan
