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Descendant of Robinson Settlers from Tip town, Tipperary

Hello Today, happily, I  determined that I am most probablly descended from Robinson settler emigrants who sailed from Cork on the SS Elizabeth in May of 1825. Specifically, I am the near certain great-great grandson of Richard Dwyer, age 24 at the time of departure. Richard was with his father Jeremiah Dwyer ( age 50) and possibly a wife Mary (22) - with other siblings Thomas (20), John (17), Edmond (12), Elinor (15), Judith (15), Alicia (10) and Denis (6). They may have had a child born in passage, John also who could be my great grandfather (1824-1899). Alternately, the John shown on the pasenger manifest may have been seventeen months and not the implied seventeen years. The family settled, after many trials, and more later, in the then near wilderness, of Peterborough County, Upper Canada (Ontario). They came from Tipperary town, Tipperary, Ireland. Would anyone having knowledge of this Dwyer family or any helpful suggestions, please contact me. Frank (Francis) Dwyer, Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada.  Take care, stay well.   Frank

 

Woodskid

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Hi Adding to my post above. My great grandfather John Dwyer is shown in the first census of Upper Canada (Canada not then a nation) as John Dewire (a common enumerator's error for Dwyer - the correction added in a note). HIs age at the time  being 27-  in 1851 -  and unmarried. John was then living in the household of a James Kennedy (a cooper by trade) in Douro Township, Peterborough, Ontario, Canda. His age then conforms to that on his gravestone at death in 1899 (at Lakefield, Douro, Ontario) as 75 years. He was thus (supposedly) born in 1824 apparently in Ireland.  A one year old John was not with the Dwyer family on the barque Elizabeth in May of 1825. There was though a son John, shown as seventeen - also the note that a baby was born to the family in transit from Cork to Quebec. There is therefore a mystery and three possiblilities. One, that the John Dwyer age (17) was not years but months - a typo in transcription from the original manifest. Two, the possibility that the birth, on board, was also named John, the recorded 1824 birth date deliberate to make him registered as born in Ireland, rather then born at sea and thus stateless. And three, that John might have been born in Ontario, Canada after arrival in the first year of settlement. It is all a bit of a mystery. Does anyone know if the original ships passenger list, manifest of the SS Elizabeth out of Cork in May of 1825 is available in an on-line archive. Would the records of a birth on board be logged by the ships surgeon. Any comment will be so much appreciated.

Woodskid

Hi Woodskid,
I have the ship records, can you email me please and I will send them.
marg2ade@yahoo.co.uk
Cheers
Margot

Margot Secrette

Thanks to helpful respondents, and serindipity, I have this past while made two significant discoveries. One is that the passenger manuscript of the Robinson settler vessel on arrival at Quebec, 1825, had the cryptic addition "a chlld born' alongside the head Jeremiah Dwyer, that likley a birith to 22 year-opld Mary Dwyer. - most lilely the birth of my great-great grandfather John Dwyer. The second discovery (thanks so much Margot) is that Alicia Dwyer, the next to youngest in the Dwyer family on board, was baptized in the Emily Cashel Arch-diocese (at Thurles I presume) on the 6th of July, 1816 in the attendance of Demetrio (the Latin for Jeremiah I have learned) Dwyer and his wife Alice Hogan (this name new to me)., Which happy discovery I made only yesterday on St. Patrick's day as it happens (the Saints be blessed). So that solves the large mystery of where John Dwyer was born. Most probably at sea, on the way to a new life. i also now have the tools to furher explore the Dwyer origins in Tipperary; that being the astonishing records of the Catholic parishes in Ireland. Deeply grateful here, and, a bonus, it is spring  today.  signed grateful in Canada  Frank Dwyer

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